Post by Jo Smith on Jul 4, 2015 18:48:51 GMT -5
would GOD have to have another give him power? Would GOD have to have another God give him or anoint him with yet another God? There are questions you need to find the answer to.
When you must dodge most Scripture and questions which pertain to certain verses, in order to hang to your churches doctrine, and you cannot answer the questions, know that you are in error and know not the truth.
I sent one running like a scared rabbit two days ago with such questions. happens thousands of times. They do not have the sword or power to stand in the battle. >>you think there should be no battle? then why did Scripture tell us to battle?
Honestly CONTEND for the faith once delivered to the saints. so, let's just do that; here and now:
even if you cannot respond to this openingly, at least do so in your own mind, to see if you truly are in the FAITH once delivered to the saints.
John 8 is one place that 'they' greatly misuse to try and say that Jesus said he was God. let's just see:
first this: 16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
do you believe Jesus? he said, I AM NOT ALONE. He said two here bearing witness of me.
Now here is where they misinterpret and say that Jesus was saying I am God. but he said no such thing. watch:
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
If ye believe not that I am he......and they say this proves he was saying he was God. But where does it say that? It does not say that. continue:
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he,
and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. 29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
They asked Jesus, who are you. He said the same that I told you in the beginning. So go back to the beginning of his ministry and recorded words. Go...find and show me one place where Jesus told anyone, I am God.
It is simply not in scripture.
So what?
HE then said, WHEN YOU HAVE LIFTED UP... THE ...SON..OF MAN.. then shall ye know THAT ... I.. AM..HE.
NOW IS THAT plain enough for any of you? Jesus was saying, if you believe not that I am the SON OF MAN, you shall die in your sins.
So now, where is your false doctrine?
Acts 10 declares that God ... anointed.... Jesus...with the ..Holy Ghost...and power.
Now let's read that according to the church doctrine, that Jesus is God and Holy Ghost is also God.
God anointed God with God. and power.
makes a lot of sense, yes?
Jesus said, after his resurrection, All power in heaven and earth .. is..... GIVEN ..to ...me.
So now, why did God have to have power given to him? who gave it to him?
Can any of you show the answer?
not with your churches twisted words, but with SCRIPTURE.
I pm'd a certain local 'preacher' with these same questions; guess what...NO ANSWER. ...they have none.
By: Jo Smith,...July 4, 2015
When you must dodge most Scripture and questions which pertain to certain verses, in order to hang to your churches doctrine, and you cannot answer the questions, know that you are in error and know not the truth.
I sent one running like a scared rabbit two days ago with such questions. happens thousands of times. They do not have the sword or power to stand in the battle. >>you think there should be no battle? then why did Scripture tell us to battle?
Honestly CONTEND for the faith once delivered to the saints. so, let's just do that; here and now:
even if you cannot respond to this openingly, at least do so in your own mind, to see if you truly are in the FAITH once delivered to the saints.
John 8 is one place that 'they' greatly misuse to try and say that Jesus said he was God. let's just see:
first this: 16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
do you believe Jesus? he said, I AM NOT ALONE. He said two here bearing witness of me.
Now here is where they misinterpret and say that Jesus was saying I am God. but he said no such thing. watch:
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
If ye believe not that I am he......and they say this proves he was saying he was God. But where does it say that? It does not say that. continue:
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he,
and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. 29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
They asked Jesus, who are you. He said the same that I told you in the beginning. So go back to the beginning of his ministry and recorded words. Go...find and show me one place where Jesus told anyone, I am God.
It is simply not in scripture.
So what?
HE then said, WHEN YOU HAVE LIFTED UP... THE ...SON..OF MAN.. then shall ye know THAT ... I.. AM..HE.
NOW IS THAT plain enough for any of you? Jesus was saying, if you believe not that I am the SON OF MAN, you shall die in your sins.
So now, where is your false doctrine?
Acts 10 declares that God ... anointed.... Jesus...with the ..Holy Ghost...and power.
Now let's read that according to the church doctrine, that Jesus is God and Holy Ghost is also God.
God anointed God with God. and power.
makes a lot of sense, yes?
Jesus said, after his resurrection, All power in heaven and earth .. is..... GIVEN ..to ...me.
So now, why did God have to have power given to him? who gave it to him?
Can any of you show the answer?
not with your churches twisted words, but with SCRIPTURE.
I pm'd a certain local 'preacher' with these same questions; guess what...NO ANSWER. ...they have none.
By: Jo Smith,...July 4, 2015