Post by Jo Smith on Nov 24, 2008 17:06:41 GMT -5
~~ Man’s own human mind ~~
Many people declare that no human has a mind of their very own, which is neither the mind of Christ, or of Satan. Where do they get such foolish doctrine? The Word of God makes it very clear that human’s have a human mind of our very own, and this mind is not sinful nor carnal. I wrote this under another thread, and just found it again. I wish to preserve this, so am making it into a new message.
These kinds of foolish doctrines need to be exposed, with pure Scripture and brought down. They do much harm and evil to people who are weak and deceived by these kinds of lies. The false teachers, who hate truth, have brought up this lie, to try to destroy the truth that Jesus Christ was a human man, with his very OWN MIND, which was NOT the mind of God or the spirit of God, but his very own human mind/spirit. Thus they try to prove that Jesus was God, at birth, and not a human baby. Such ungodly lies! Mary did not give BIRTH to God. God had no beginning or ending of life. He is eternal.
Jesus had both a beginning and ending. He was not eternal. He was BORN. He DIED and was resurrected. Get some truth!
Now for the proof:
Mr 5:15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
Mr 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mr 14:72 And the second time the thingy crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the thingy crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept. (Was that Satan’s mind; or God’s mind, which Peter called to? Ridiculous! It was Peter’s own mind!)
Lu 1:29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
HER MIND. Was that a carnal mind? Course not. It was HER OWN HUMAN MIND.
Ac 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
They received the word with their OWN MIND. This was not a carnal mind, nor was it is the mind of God. It was their OWN MIND. This mind, of the people, themselves, was able to receive the Word of God, for their own human mind was NOT CARNAL OR EVIL.
Ac 20:18 And when they were come to him, he said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons, Ac 20:19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews:
This was Paul's own HUMAN MIND, not the spirit of God or a carnal mind. His own mind was serving God, not carnality.
Ac 28:6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.
The above was just natural minded people. Not carnal, not gods. They changed their own human mind about Paul. Still not carnal, still not spiritual. just a human mind, seeing something they did not realize before.
Ro 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
In the above, those people at first only had a natural human mind. but since they did not like keeping God in their own mind, God finally gave them OVER to a REPROBATE mind. Now they do have a carnal and wicked mind. but not to start with. This solidly proves that the people had a natural, human mind, to begin with. This human mind was not the reprobate mind. They were turned over to this carnal, or reprobate mind, since they did not want God in their own human mind.
Ro 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
In the above Paul shows that a person has a mind of their own, neither of Satan, nor or God. But there was something warring against their own mind, bringing them into captivity to that LAW of sin and death, which is the LAW THAT God DID AWAY WITH.
Ro 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin
He Shows here that he served God with his own mind. this is the human mind, not the mind of God or of Satan.
Ro 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
We can and should RENEW OUR OWN MIND by the study of the Word of God. YOUR MIND, means the human mind in a person. It is not God's mind, nor Satan's mind, It is our own human mind or spirit. Jesus Christ also had a human mind of his own, which was not the spirit or mind of God. It was his mind. With this mind, his very own mind, Jesus overcame sin and loved and served God; with his very own human mind! Stop taking away this truth and glory from this man, Jesus Christ!
A new born baby has a mind of their very own. It is not God's mind and it is not carnal, and it is not of Satan. It is a human mind, which is not corrupt, for the baby is innocent.
Do you deny this? If so, upon what grounds?
Ro 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
If a man does not have a mind of his very own, how could he be persuaded in HIS OWN MIND? If all a person has, is either a mind of Christ or a mind of Satan, then he would have absolutely NOT CONTROL over this mind, to decide and be fully persuaded. He could not be held accountable for any of his own actions, if that were the case. How ridiculous to think that we humans, and the man, Jesus, did not have our very own human minds. This human mind is neither spiritual or carnal. We must receive a ‘spirit’ either from God or from Satan, to pick up a spiritual mind or a carnal mind . The human mind is neither, of its own accord!
You DO GREATLY ERR, NOT KNOWING THE WORD OF GOD.
2co 8:12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
That speaks about the human MIND of a Christian, but it is his very own human mind. God does not force one to give. It comes from the person's own willingness.
2co 8:19 And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:
Again, the above shows the Christian still has his very OWN MIND. and he can be ready to do a thing. It is neither God's mind, nor a carnal mind.
2co 9:2 For I know the forwardness of your mind, for which I boast of you to them of Macedonia, that Achaia was ready a year ago; and your zeal hath provoked very many.
Again, this proves they had a mind of their OWN, and it was not carnal, nor was it God's mind. It was their own human mind. They could chose to do this thing, or not to do it. It was not carnal, or sin, either way. But they had the choice.
This next one is a good one, proving that the human mind was at once not corrupted, but could be corrupted by false teachings. so be very careful what you believe and teach.
2co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ
All of these....and you never heard of a human mind, which was neither carnal, nor God's mind in the person? Do you ever read the Word of God? Certainly seems to me that you do not.
And this is not all, but it is certainly MORE THAN ENOUGH to prove that we have a human mind of our very own. Jesus did also, else he was not a man.
By: Jo Smith ~~~ Oct. 10, 2008
Many people declare that no human has a mind of their very own, which is neither the mind of Christ, or of Satan. Where do they get such foolish doctrine? The Word of God makes it very clear that human’s have a human mind of our very own, and this mind is not sinful nor carnal. I wrote this under another thread, and just found it again. I wish to preserve this, so am making it into a new message.
These kinds of foolish doctrines need to be exposed, with pure Scripture and brought down. They do much harm and evil to people who are weak and deceived by these kinds of lies. The false teachers, who hate truth, have brought up this lie, to try to destroy the truth that Jesus Christ was a human man, with his very OWN MIND, which was NOT the mind of God or the spirit of God, but his very own human mind/spirit. Thus they try to prove that Jesus was God, at birth, and not a human baby. Such ungodly lies! Mary did not give BIRTH to God. God had no beginning or ending of life. He is eternal.
Jesus had both a beginning and ending. He was not eternal. He was BORN. He DIED and was resurrected. Get some truth!
Now for the proof:
Mr 5:15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
Mr 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mr 14:72 And the second time the thingy crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the thingy crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept. (Was that Satan’s mind; or God’s mind, which Peter called to? Ridiculous! It was Peter’s own mind!)
Lu 1:29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
HER MIND. Was that a carnal mind? Course not. It was HER OWN HUMAN MIND.
Ac 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
They received the word with their OWN MIND. This was not a carnal mind, nor was it is the mind of God. It was their OWN MIND. This mind, of the people, themselves, was able to receive the Word of God, for their own human mind was NOT CARNAL OR EVIL.
Ac 20:18 And when they were come to him, he said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons, Ac 20:19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews:
This was Paul's own HUMAN MIND, not the spirit of God or a carnal mind. His own mind was serving God, not carnality.
Ac 28:6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.
The above was just natural minded people. Not carnal, not gods. They changed their own human mind about Paul. Still not carnal, still not spiritual. just a human mind, seeing something they did not realize before.
Ro 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
In the above, those people at first only had a natural human mind. but since they did not like keeping God in their own mind, God finally gave them OVER to a REPROBATE mind. Now they do have a carnal and wicked mind. but not to start with. This solidly proves that the people had a natural, human mind, to begin with. This human mind was not the reprobate mind. They were turned over to this carnal, or reprobate mind, since they did not want God in their own human mind.
Ro 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
In the above Paul shows that a person has a mind of their own, neither of Satan, nor or God. But there was something warring against their own mind, bringing them into captivity to that LAW of sin and death, which is the LAW THAT God DID AWAY WITH.
Ro 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin
He Shows here that he served God with his own mind. this is the human mind, not the mind of God or of Satan.
Ro 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
We can and should RENEW OUR OWN MIND by the study of the Word of God. YOUR MIND, means the human mind in a person. It is not God's mind, nor Satan's mind, It is our own human mind or spirit. Jesus Christ also had a human mind of his own, which was not the spirit or mind of God. It was his mind. With this mind, his very own mind, Jesus overcame sin and loved and served God; with his very own human mind! Stop taking away this truth and glory from this man, Jesus Christ!
A new born baby has a mind of their very own. It is not God's mind and it is not carnal, and it is not of Satan. It is a human mind, which is not corrupt, for the baby is innocent.
Do you deny this? If so, upon what grounds?
Ro 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
If a man does not have a mind of his very own, how could he be persuaded in HIS OWN MIND? If all a person has, is either a mind of Christ or a mind of Satan, then he would have absolutely NOT CONTROL over this mind, to decide and be fully persuaded. He could not be held accountable for any of his own actions, if that were the case. How ridiculous to think that we humans, and the man, Jesus, did not have our very own human minds. This human mind is neither spiritual or carnal. We must receive a ‘spirit’ either from God or from Satan, to pick up a spiritual mind or a carnal mind . The human mind is neither, of its own accord!
You DO GREATLY ERR, NOT KNOWING THE WORD OF GOD.
2co 8:12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
That speaks about the human MIND of a Christian, but it is his very own human mind. God does not force one to give. It comes from the person's own willingness.
2co 8:19 And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:
Again, the above shows the Christian still has his very OWN MIND. and he can be ready to do a thing. It is neither God's mind, nor a carnal mind.
2co 9:2 For I know the forwardness of your mind, for which I boast of you to them of Macedonia, that Achaia was ready a year ago; and your zeal hath provoked very many.
Again, this proves they had a mind of their OWN, and it was not carnal, nor was it God's mind. It was their own human mind. They could chose to do this thing, or not to do it. It was not carnal, or sin, either way. But they had the choice.
This next one is a good one, proving that the human mind was at once not corrupted, but could be corrupted by false teachings. so be very careful what you believe and teach.
2co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ
All of these....and you never heard of a human mind, which was neither carnal, nor God's mind in the person? Do you ever read the Word of God? Certainly seems to me that you do not.
And this is not all, but it is certainly MORE THAN ENOUGH to prove that we have a human mind of our very own. Jesus did also, else he was not a man.
By: Jo Smith ~~~ Oct. 10, 2008