Law is death

[isaiah]

~~LAW IS DEATH ~~

Please listen to what the WORD is saying; don't let your preconceived thoughts cause you to see something that is NOT there.

Go back and READ 11Cor. 3:7--But if the ministration of DEATH, written and engraven in STONES, (those two tablets Moses had; which God wrote on with his fingers) (but it did not say He wrote his Word there; not so! NO! He said He wrote the ministration of DEATH on those stones).

Everyone, you need to stop and READ THIS.

v7--But if the ministration of DEATH, WRITTEN AND ENGRAVEN in STONES was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away.

Look at it --- read it! What did it say was written on those stones? The ministration of DEATH.

Now I ask you, everyone who may read this --- IF JESUS SAID MY WORDS ARE LIFE --- HOW IN THIS WORLD ARE THEY WHAT WAS WRITTEN ON THOSE STONES? HUH? DID NOT HE SAY THIS WAS DEATH WRITTEN ON THOSE STONES? HOW THEN COULD IT HAVE BEEN HIS WORD?

It was the ministration of the LAW----- that was death----- that is the letter---- that is what kills--- that is what was written on stones--- that was Moses law. That is what Paul is speaking of in Romans 7- when he said v9---For I was ALIVE without ----- he said I was ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW

You law keepers, read this: --- v9--I WAS ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW ONCE: BUT WHEN THE COMMANDMENT (LAW) CAME, SIN REVIVED, AND I (WHAT? )

AND I DIED.

There you have it---- man was ALIVE without the LAW--- why? Because the law (letter) KILLS. So he was dead. If you go back under that law willfully, you, too, will be DEAD. It was the ministration of DEATH --- THE LETTER KILLS--- THE LAW KILLS---- MAN WAS ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW---THE LAW CAME---SIN REVIVED---MAN DIED.

How could you miss this?

Romans: 7--v4-----wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become DEAD to the law by the body of Christ; (see, that the body; or the true church makes us dead to that law? How then could you be in that body, and still be married to that law? can't be )-- that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the DEAD (NO LONGER UNDER THAT LAW)--- that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

v5--For when we were in the FLESH (this does not mean when we were in the Word)____ It could not mean that! (nor does it mean when we were in our body; for we are always in our body)(it means where we were in the law)----the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

Now this very clearly shows that when mankind was under that law, the motions of sins, which were by the law; (hear that, it was BY THE LAW)--it brought forth fruit unto DEATH - NOT LIFE. So that law was DEATH.

THE WORD IS LIFE. WHAT A CONTRAST Romans 8:9---But ye are NOT in the FLESH, but in the SPIRIT, is so be that the SPIRIT of God dwell in you.

Now, if the Spirit of God (Holy Ghost) is in me I am NOT in the FLESH---- so does this mean I am not in my BODY?

Of course not!

How could it mean that? So then, we have clearly established right here that the FLESH does NOT mean the HUMAN BODY.

Now back to cp. 7:10-- And the COMMANDMENT, (law) which was ordained to life, I found to be unto DEATH.

So the law brought DEATH ------ SO HOW COULD IT BE THE WORD?

The words are LIFE. So how could they bring DEATH? Could not be so.

v11--For sin, taking occasion by the COMMANDMENT, deceived me (see,SIN by the law deceived him = man kind)---and by it ( the law)----- SLEW ME.

There you have it! The law was death to mankind. So it could not be the WORD. The WORD IS LIFE.

IF IT IS LIFE--- HOW COULD IT KILL? IF IT KILLS US HOW THEN IS IT LIFE??

Paul is plainly saying that mankind, before the LAW was alive; but after they were placed under LAW,they (mankind) died = were DEAD.

So he is asking Who will or can deliver me from this law// WHO CAN DELIVER ME FROM THE BODY OF THIS DEATH?

What did he mean? He meant who can deliver us from that body of the LAW, which was DEATH. That 'body' means that group of people with Moses under the law. Paul was in that group, or body, before he came to Jesus. Jesus, His words set Paul free from that body of death.

Jesus Christ did. How? By giving us the Word of God; by giving us GRACE.

Joie,

if you can't see this, it is because you are blind.

[isaiah]

From: joie Sent: 7/13/2002 1:18 PM
Romans 9:17~~ For the SCRIPTURE saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Gal. 4:30~~ Nevertheless what saith the SCRIPTURE? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewomen. Gal. 3:8~~ And the SCRIPTURE, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, PREACHED before the gospel unto Abraham, saying In thee shall all natins be blessed.
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Now, look at Romans 9:17~~ How, and when did the SCRIPTURE talk to Pharaoh? As far as we know, there were no written Word at that time.

Now Gal. 3:8~~ How, and when did the SCRIPTURE preach the gospel to to Abraham?

Now, Gal.4:30~ How and when did the SCRIPTURE say to cast out the bond child? I do not mean where is it recorded in the written word ---- but rather, how and when did the SCRIPTURE first say this ----- by letting Sarah know this?

See, you do not understand the WORD. All this took place BEFORE any recorded, written Word appeared; at least so far as we know.

So, how was this accomplished? How did the Scripture talk to Pharaoh and tell him that he raised him up for that purpose?

Know you not that if you are under the LAW, you are the son of the bondwoman?? And that the son of the bondwoman is not heir with the son of the freewoman?

The LAW is bondage = bound. So is you are under law, you are bond children.

You cannot be bond children and children of the free woman = New Jerusalem ---- . You are either one or the other.

The Spirit and the Word are ONE; but you are trying to separate them. Will not work. The word is life. To deny this is to call Jesus a lie
Jo

[isaiah]

In this scripture he had to be calling scripture the spoken word of God.

Here God was talking to Pharoah and Pharoah said in Ex.5:2 -- And Pharaoh said, Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go. ( voice here same as the spoken word.)

This is proof that the word was God,not Jesus or the law as some say.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


God was in Christ,the word was in Christ.It is not that Jesus was the Word.

John 001:014 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


The Flesh was the word-- SPIRTIUAL FOOD WHAT WE ARE TO EAT. The Word of God.

Rev.-10:9
And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
Eze-003:001 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel.
003:002 So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that roll.
003:003 And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness

No doubt in my mind that the scripture he was reffering to in Romans 9:17 was the spoken word of

[isaiah]

From: Dawn Sent: 7/13/2002 10:34 PM
Dear Isaiah,

What a beautiful post; what a beautiful, beautiful message. I see this so clearly!! The way you brought this out, I don't see how anyone could fail to see this. I also found another passage saying the same thing:

Jer. 15:16---Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name O LORD God of hosts. (who is this saying they are called by God's name?)

Them it seems to me that the 'eating' of those trees in the Garden of Eden is this same kind of eating: hearing the Word of God. Right?

I remember another passage saying I esteeme thy word more than my necessary food. So the spiritual food is more necessary than the natural food.

The Word is God; Jesus brought us God; Jesus brought us God's spoken Word. How beautiful. That is how God was with us in Jesus.

What a great revelation! Thank you for this truth; for giving it to us in words we can understand (or eat).

Dawn