Post by Jo Smith on Nov 24, 2008 21:46:00 GMT -5
From: nellie Sent: 12/21/2001 12:35 PM
Dear spiritwalker,
You are doing the one thing which is necessary for one to come to see God's truth: you are praying and asking God to give you understanding. He is the only one who can open your understanding. But, if one closes up their heart (mind) and refuse to even consider something other than that which they have already been 'indoctrinated' with by a 'church', they will NEVER see truth.
Then, one absolutely MUST study the Word and go exactly by what the Word says; without adding or taking away one single word.
For instance, in one of rod's recent posts, he stated that the church was the one who would lead us and guide us into all truth. Well, Jesus said that was the job of the Holy Ghost.
See, that is how they lie in wait to deceive. If they change one word to make it say what they want it to say, it is lies and will lead to more lies; which lead to HELL.
In Jere. 15: 9--it says--She that hath borne seven languisheth: she hath given up the ghost: her sun is gone down while it was yet day: she hath been ashamed and confounded: and the residue of them will I deliver to the sword before their enemies, saith the LORD.
When the word speaks of these 'seven' it means those seven churches in Revelation. She (the church) bore seven = seven churches. All seven of these were a mixture of some good and some evil; some more than others. But, none of them were the Church without spot, wrinkle, or blemish. See, if they had some wrong, it was a blemish. But the true Bride Church is without any such thing. There were only two such churches.
According to Rev. they stand on either side of those seven. So, according to the verse in Jer. if 'her' sun goes down while it was yet day; this means God left her in darkness. In one of the prophets it says 'the sun went down on the prophets'. This means God was through dealing with and through the prophets. This was when He closed off the O.T. and brought in the N.T. Church.
When they (the O.T. nation of Israel) saw that God had left off dealing with nations, and was now dealing with churches---they joined together with the heathen, of whom they had always followered ( read how they always fell to worshipping the idols of the heathen around them)--- and they formed this false church. It was headed up by the head of the pagan religion, the pope. They trampled the truth to the ground and killed (ate down Jesus' vine) (see Joel 1)--and took over the whole world. That is why the catholics have the 'priest' system: it is a carry over of the old Levitical priesthood. But See, the true church has only one high priest, Jesus. Then we are all priest to God. They deny that.
But Jesus took the keys to that bottomless pit and opened it up and let his people come out. See the two open doors in Rev.
But, as they came out, they formed another church just like the one they came out of, thus forming the image to that beast church. That is the protestant churches. They killed those who disagreed with them. They still retained their heathen idol holiday worship things. Thus, they still did not come back to the real powerful church started on the day of Pentecost.
But, Jesus said His Church would not fail: so, He is going to bring forth another true, powerful church; but this will be after the last of the seven. I fully believe we are at that time. If those seven were true churches, they would not end up languishing as shown in Jer. 15. If she gave up the 'ghost' this means she is dead. That is where we are. Read about that seventh church in Rev. 3. You will find it is naked, blind, miserable lukewarm; ready to be spued out of God's mouth. So how, could this be God's true church? See, there is no way. She is the sleeper; she is married to Satan.
Isa. 14 and Rev. 17 show that this spirit rules over the kingdoms of this world; it shows to be satan. So, the people in this 'kingdom' is the bride or wife of Satan. That is those seven churches. Of course, there came forth some true Christians out of each of those churches. But the church itself had the seat of Satan in their midst. They had known the depths of Satan in some of those churches. Take the time to study Rev. 1 - 3.
So, if the state of that last church is all there is to it--then Jesus' word would not be true, that the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church. So, there will come forth another annointed, powerful Church; ; but only after that seventh one has given up the ghost.
I know this is long; but it is the only I can show you this. I know pillar is also a very good teacher.
I have posted some of this on another board; I will try to copy and bring it here to help you see this.
Nellie
Dear spiritwalker,
You are doing the one thing which is necessary for one to come to see God's truth: you are praying and asking God to give you understanding. He is the only one who can open your understanding. But, if one closes up their heart (mind) and refuse to even consider something other than that which they have already been 'indoctrinated' with by a 'church', they will NEVER see truth.
Then, one absolutely MUST study the Word and go exactly by what the Word says; without adding or taking away one single word.
For instance, in one of rod's recent posts, he stated that the church was the one who would lead us and guide us into all truth. Well, Jesus said that was the job of the Holy Ghost.
See, that is how they lie in wait to deceive. If they change one word to make it say what they want it to say, it is lies and will lead to more lies; which lead to HELL.
In Jere. 15: 9--it says--She that hath borne seven languisheth: she hath given up the ghost: her sun is gone down while it was yet day: she hath been ashamed and confounded: and the residue of them will I deliver to the sword before their enemies, saith the LORD.
When the word speaks of these 'seven' it means those seven churches in Revelation. She (the church) bore seven = seven churches. All seven of these were a mixture of some good and some evil; some more than others. But, none of them were the Church without spot, wrinkle, or blemish. See, if they had some wrong, it was a blemish. But the true Bride Church is without any such thing. There were only two such churches.
According to Rev. they stand on either side of those seven. So, according to the verse in Jer. if 'her' sun goes down while it was yet day; this means God left her in darkness. In one of the prophets it says 'the sun went down on the prophets'. This means God was through dealing with and through the prophets. This was when He closed off the O.T. and brought in the N.T. Church.
When they (the O.T. nation of Israel) saw that God had left off dealing with nations, and was now dealing with churches---they joined together with the heathen, of whom they had always followered ( read how they always fell to worshipping the idols of the heathen around them)--- and they formed this false church. It was headed up by the head of the pagan religion, the pope. They trampled the truth to the ground and killed (ate down Jesus' vine) (see Joel 1)--and took over the whole world. That is why the catholics have the 'priest' system: it is a carry over of the old Levitical priesthood. But See, the true church has only one high priest, Jesus. Then we are all priest to God. They deny that.
But Jesus took the keys to that bottomless pit and opened it up and let his people come out. See the two open doors in Rev.
But, as they came out, they formed another church just like the one they came out of, thus forming the image to that beast church. That is the protestant churches. They killed those who disagreed with them. They still retained their heathen idol holiday worship things. Thus, they still did not come back to the real powerful church started on the day of Pentecost.
But, Jesus said His Church would not fail: so, He is going to bring forth another true, powerful church; but this will be after the last of the seven. I fully believe we are at that time. If those seven were true churches, they would not end up languishing as shown in Jer. 15. If she gave up the 'ghost' this means she is dead. That is where we are. Read about that seventh church in Rev. 3. You will find it is naked, blind, miserable lukewarm; ready to be spued out of God's mouth. So how, could this be God's true church? See, there is no way. She is the sleeper; she is married to Satan.
Isa. 14 and Rev. 17 show that this spirit rules over the kingdoms of this world; it shows to be satan. So, the people in this 'kingdom' is the bride or wife of Satan. That is those seven churches. Of course, there came forth some true Christians out of each of those churches. But the church itself had the seat of Satan in their midst. They had known the depths of Satan in some of those churches. Take the time to study Rev. 1 - 3.
So, if the state of that last church is all there is to it--then Jesus' word would not be true, that the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church. So, there will come forth another annointed, powerful Church; ; but only after that seventh one has given up the ghost.
I know this is long; but it is the only I can show you this. I know pillar is also a very good teacher.
I have posted some of this on another board; I will try to copy and bring it here to help you see this.
Nellie