Post by Jo Smith on Nov 10, 2008 8:47:33 GMT -5
Let me say here, that I wrote this message before God revealed the Seven heads of mankind to me. This is true only in the type, with the Gentiles. But I do want to say this also, for discussion.
From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 8/21/2001 2:24 PM
Daniel said four kingdoms would rule the world. He said the fourth one would be in power when the God of Heaven sets up His kingdom forever to rule.
According to history, the Old Testament times had four Gentile kingdoms ruling after the captivity of Judah.
Beginning with the Babylon kingdom, it ended with the Roman Empire. That being the fourth one, it would have to still be in existence.
So, where does that bring us? Daniel described four kingdoms coming up out of the sea. They had seven heads; the third one has four heads; so altogether this is seven heads. It had 10 horns.
Now, go to Rev. 12---you will see the dragon in heaven described the same way = 7 heads; 10 horns. So, this identifies the seven kingdoms as Satan’s kingdom on earth.
Daniel showed them to be separate kingdoms. But when you go to Rev. 13--you will see that John called his vision one kingdom with 7 heads and 10 horns.
So, this shows that all seven kingdoms are united into one. Daniel dealt with the O.T. nations; John deals with the seven churches.
Being as the Roman empire was the last of the four kingdoms to rule the world until the kingdom of God is established on earth, somehow this has to still be the Roman kingdom.
History reveals that when the Roman Empire began to fall, the Roman church, under the headship of the Pope, took over and assumed the power. This fits what Daniel said that this one would take the kingdom by flatteries; but he would not be given the honour of the kingdom. This means he was not a ruling Emperor. But, he exercised the power of the Emperors. He had control of the whole world.
Notice, though, that this is still the Roman Empire. When the Roman Empire came into power, they took into it all the idols of all the nations they conquered. When the Pope took over, he also took into this whore church all the idols of the whole world.
The Empire had been killing and destroying the Christians by the millions. The Pope also had millions of them killed and tortured. I did not make this up; history books are full of the horrible things they did to Christians.
So, the Roman Church made an image to the Roman Empire; which was an image of the Beast before it. So now, the Church makes an image to the Beast before it and has all the same power of the beast (Empire) before it.
All seven churches in Revelation are part of this seven-headed Beast which came up out of the sea. But, John also saw another Beast, with two horns, come up out of the earth. This Beast also makes an image to the Beast before it. The Beast (ruling power) before it was the Catholic Church, headed up by the Pope. So, what is this other Beast? None other than the Protestant Churches. They came in AS a lamb (in disguise; the two horns) but they spake as a dragon.
They made an image to the Catholic Church; they did just as she did; killed those who disagreed with her. They took up all the idolatrous holidays that the Catholics had brought over from Pagan Rome. They set up one man over the congregation; they set up fancy building with steeples on top; all of which came from Pagan worship. They did the work of God for money (paid pastors, etc). This is the very mark of the ‘beast’. So, it is plain to see, that they became an image of the Beast before them.
But read Rev.16:19-- this tells that the great city of Babylon was divided into three parts.
So, what is Babylon? This is the kingdom of Satan on the earth. It started in the Garden of Eden, when Adam disobeyed God and obeyed Satan. Babylon is not a PLACE; it is a CONDITION. It is a condition of rebellion to God; of worship to Satan. It is his city. He is called the king of Babylon in Isa. 14. Mystery Babylon is the whore against God, the queen of Satan.
So, what are these three divisions of Babylon? It started with the Catholic Church; next it divided into the Protestant Churches; they followed suit; they became just like their ‘mama’ church. But where is that third division? It is the Pentecostal Churches of today.
Now, I know a lot of people will take me to war over this statement; but study this first. They also came in looking like a ‘lamb’; a fake restoration of the first true church; the one born on the day of Pentecost; that first true WITNESS of God.
But, lets examine it. It is coming to maturity today. Fruit time; the time you can judge what kind of TREE it is. What do we see? Fancy, expensive buildings with steeples on top; one man ruling over the congregation and being paid for it; being more concerned with money and other worldly things than the true things of God. Their teachings are the same old trinity (Satan) lie or the new lie that the man (Jesus) was God. God said He is not man nor the Son of Man. They sneer at all who disagree with them. Some of them now wish to kill us who disagree. God told me they would be our greatest persecutors. They do not possess the power that first Pentecostal Church had; so they are an imposter. This identifies them as that third division of that Babylon Church. Another clear identification of being an image to the Beast before it, is their partaking of the old pagan holidays. So they are a mockery of the true Pentecostal Church.
Now, to the subject of this message; the four worms in Joel 1. If you will take the time to look up those worms, the palmerworm, the locust, the cankerworm, and the caterpillar, in the Hebrew dictionary, you will find that they are all the same; they all have the meaning of eating away, devouring, consuming, altering disguising, etc.
Joel 1:4--shows that these four worms had eaten up something. v6,7 shows that a nation came up on Jesus’ land and laid his vine waste, barked his fig tree, made it clean bare, and cast it away; the branches he made white.
Jesus said I am the vine; ye are the branches. So, he showed his kingdom to be likened to a TREE.
This TREE is what these four worms ate up and devoured. So that takes us to the question----Who or what destroyed Jesus’ TREE?
It started with that Roman Empire. They burned them, threw them to the lions, put them on torture racks; too much to tell here. They were the first stage of that devouring worm.
Next, it went into the next stage of that fourth kingdom---the Catholic Church. What did they do? Killed them by the millions; by burning at the stake, torture racks, every conceivable method of torture and death. That image to the first Beast is the second worm.
Then, the next division of the Babylon City (the whorish church) the Protestant Church, also took up killing those who opposed them. So they were this third worm; the second division of the Church. If you do not believe this, just read some history books on Martin Luther, John Calvin and all the other ‘reformers’; you will find that they killed and had people killed who disagreed with them.
But, you must realize that all this physical killing is only a small part of the damage these ‘WORMS’ did to the true Church; for in killing them, their souls were still saved. But, the real damage, the ‘eating’ away the tree, ‘barking’ is, means taking away the truth. Bringing in false teachings so as to destroy their souls. This is the real damage; the eating down the tree.
So that brings us to that last worm; the third division of the Church. The Pentecostals of today. They follow all the false teachings of the Church before it, the Protestants. The cause their members to believe a lie; they made an image to the beast before it. They cause all that will not take the ‘mark’ to be killed. This means they teach unless you do as they say, you will be lost. The ‘mark’ is doing the work of God for money. Of course, it is all the false things they do; doting on the BUILDING WITH THE STEEPLE ON IT. Saying THIS is the temple of God; when He said it is our bodies.
They do all the pagan holidays. So they cause their people to be ‘killed’ spiritually.
But, we have a great promise from God; Joel 2:25---And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten,......the four worms.
Read Joel 1----all of it. It shows the worms cut off the new wine, wasted the field, the corn, the oil, the joy, the wheat the barley. every thing was desolate. This means they totally took away the true Word from the people and caused them to become desolate spiritually. This is the condition of the Church world when the second witness comes into power. Joel 2 starts off with the ministry of this second group of anointed people of God with power from on high. They bring the punishment upon these ‘WORMS’ for the evil done to the true Church. This is the Wrath of the Lamb. That is why this chapter starts of with the blowing of the TRUMPETS. These trumpets is the judgment ministry.
They will bring back the True Teachings of the True Word of God. That is the restoration of the YEARS.
I pray this will be a blessing and help you come to understand these things.
Jo
From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 8/21/2001 2:24 PM
Daniel said four kingdoms would rule the world. He said the fourth one would be in power when the God of Heaven sets up His kingdom forever to rule.
According to history, the Old Testament times had four Gentile kingdoms ruling after the captivity of Judah.
Beginning with the Babylon kingdom, it ended with the Roman Empire. That being the fourth one, it would have to still be in existence.
So, where does that bring us? Daniel described four kingdoms coming up out of the sea. They had seven heads; the third one has four heads; so altogether this is seven heads. It had 10 horns.
Now, go to Rev. 12---you will see the dragon in heaven described the same way = 7 heads; 10 horns. So, this identifies the seven kingdoms as Satan’s kingdom on earth.
Daniel showed them to be separate kingdoms. But when you go to Rev. 13--you will see that John called his vision one kingdom with 7 heads and 10 horns.
So, this shows that all seven kingdoms are united into one. Daniel dealt with the O.T. nations; John deals with the seven churches.
Being as the Roman empire was the last of the four kingdoms to rule the world until the kingdom of God is established on earth, somehow this has to still be the Roman kingdom.
History reveals that when the Roman Empire began to fall, the Roman church, under the headship of the Pope, took over and assumed the power. This fits what Daniel said that this one would take the kingdom by flatteries; but he would not be given the honour of the kingdom. This means he was not a ruling Emperor. But, he exercised the power of the Emperors. He had control of the whole world.
Notice, though, that this is still the Roman Empire. When the Roman Empire came into power, they took into it all the idols of all the nations they conquered. When the Pope took over, he also took into this whore church all the idols of the whole world.
The Empire had been killing and destroying the Christians by the millions. The Pope also had millions of them killed and tortured. I did not make this up; history books are full of the horrible things they did to Christians.
So, the Roman Church made an image to the Roman Empire; which was an image of the Beast before it. So now, the Church makes an image to the Beast before it and has all the same power of the beast (Empire) before it.
All seven churches in Revelation are part of this seven-headed Beast which came up out of the sea. But, John also saw another Beast, with two horns, come up out of the earth. This Beast also makes an image to the Beast before it. The Beast (ruling power) before it was the Catholic Church, headed up by the Pope. So, what is this other Beast? None other than the Protestant Churches. They came in AS a lamb (in disguise; the two horns) but they spake as a dragon.
They made an image to the Catholic Church; they did just as she did; killed those who disagreed with her. They took up all the idolatrous holidays that the Catholics had brought over from Pagan Rome. They set up one man over the congregation; they set up fancy building with steeples on top; all of which came from Pagan worship. They did the work of God for money (paid pastors, etc). This is the very mark of the ‘beast’. So, it is plain to see, that they became an image of the Beast before them.
But read Rev.16:19-- this tells that the great city of Babylon was divided into three parts.
So, what is Babylon? This is the kingdom of Satan on the earth. It started in the Garden of Eden, when Adam disobeyed God and obeyed Satan. Babylon is not a PLACE; it is a CONDITION. It is a condition of rebellion to God; of worship to Satan. It is his city. He is called the king of Babylon in Isa. 14. Mystery Babylon is the whore against God, the queen of Satan.
So, what are these three divisions of Babylon? It started with the Catholic Church; next it divided into the Protestant Churches; they followed suit; they became just like their ‘mama’ church. But where is that third division? It is the Pentecostal Churches of today.
Now, I know a lot of people will take me to war over this statement; but study this first. They also came in looking like a ‘lamb’; a fake restoration of the first true church; the one born on the day of Pentecost; that first true WITNESS of God.
But, lets examine it. It is coming to maturity today. Fruit time; the time you can judge what kind of TREE it is. What do we see? Fancy, expensive buildings with steeples on top; one man ruling over the congregation and being paid for it; being more concerned with money and other worldly things than the true things of God. Their teachings are the same old trinity (Satan) lie or the new lie that the man (Jesus) was God. God said He is not man nor the Son of Man. They sneer at all who disagree with them. Some of them now wish to kill us who disagree. God told me they would be our greatest persecutors. They do not possess the power that first Pentecostal Church had; so they are an imposter. This identifies them as that third division of that Babylon Church. Another clear identification of being an image to the Beast before it, is their partaking of the old pagan holidays. So they are a mockery of the true Pentecostal Church.
Now, to the subject of this message; the four worms in Joel 1. If you will take the time to look up those worms, the palmerworm, the locust, the cankerworm, and the caterpillar, in the Hebrew dictionary, you will find that they are all the same; they all have the meaning of eating away, devouring, consuming, altering disguising, etc.
Joel 1:4--shows that these four worms had eaten up something. v6,7 shows that a nation came up on Jesus’ land and laid his vine waste, barked his fig tree, made it clean bare, and cast it away; the branches he made white.
Jesus said I am the vine; ye are the branches. So, he showed his kingdom to be likened to a TREE.
This TREE is what these four worms ate up and devoured. So that takes us to the question----Who or what destroyed Jesus’ TREE?
It started with that Roman Empire. They burned them, threw them to the lions, put them on torture racks; too much to tell here. They were the first stage of that devouring worm.
Next, it went into the next stage of that fourth kingdom---the Catholic Church. What did they do? Killed them by the millions; by burning at the stake, torture racks, every conceivable method of torture and death. That image to the first Beast is the second worm.
Then, the next division of the Babylon City (the whorish church) the Protestant Church, also took up killing those who opposed them. So they were this third worm; the second division of the Church. If you do not believe this, just read some history books on Martin Luther, John Calvin and all the other ‘reformers’; you will find that they killed and had people killed who disagreed with them.
But, you must realize that all this physical killing is only a small part of the damage these ‘WORMS’ did to the true Church; for in killing them, their souls were still saved. But, the real damage, the ‘eating’ away the tree, ‘barking’ is, means taking away the truth. Bringing in false teachings so as to destroy their souls. This is the real damage; the eating down the tree.
So that brings us to that last worm; the third division of the Church. The Pentecostals of today. They follow all the false teachings of the Church before it, the Protestants. The cause their members to believe a lie; they made an image to the beast before it. They cause all that will not take the ‘mark’ to be killed. This means they teach unless you do as they say, you will be lost. The ‘mark’ is doing the work of God for money. Of course, it is all the false things they do; doting on the BUILDING WITH THE STEEPLE ON IT. Saying THIS is the temple of God; when He said it is our bodies.
They do all the pagan holidays. So they cause their people to be ‘killed’ spiritually.
But, we have a great promise from God; Joel 2:25---And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten,......the four worms.
Read Joel 1----all of it. It shows the worms cut off the new wine, wasted the field, the corn, the oil, the joy, the wheat the barley. every thing was desolate. This means they totally took away the true Word from the people and caused them to become desolate spiritually. This is the condition of the Church world when the second witness comes into power. Joel 2 starts off with the ministry of this second group of anointed people of God with power from on high. They bring the punishment upon these ‘WORMS’ for the evil done to the true Church. This is the Wrath of the Lamb. That is why this chapter starts of with the blowing of the TRUMPETS. These trumpets is the judgment ministry.
They will bring back the True Teachings of the True Word of God. That is the restoration of the YEARS.
I pray this will be a blessing and help you come to understand these things.
Jo