Post by isaiah on Nov 25, 2008 2:04:25 GMT -5
Be careful~~ By: Jo Smith ~~ January 30, 2007
Be very careful what you believe and what you teach. Many deceivers have gone out into the world. The world is now full of deceivers and deception. If some man sets himself up as a special person in any kind of way, and especially if he is rebellious and proud enough to actually set his own words into the Word of God, then people will just flock to him and believe all his lies above anything God said. It is a sad and serious situation. But people are still filled with that evil spirit of Adam, their father.
As I was meditating before getting up, this came into my mind. What actually was the sin in Genesis six, which set off God’s anger enough to cause him to decide to destroy man?
I think the real truth of their sin has been overlooked. Lets see if it is what you think it is:
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Ge 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Ge 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Ge 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Ge 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Ge 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Ge 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Ge 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
First, let the Word of God establish who these sons of God are right here. This is one of the meanest lies hitting the world today. Carnal men are claiming that these sons of God are angels. No Scripture teaches that angels were ever considered to be sons of God. Besides that, if these angels did have relationships with women and have children by them, as the lie says, then these children would be half angel and half human. Who ever heard of such a thing? No one. Yet I have never heard any of the teachers of this lie admit that these children are half angel. Yet if angels fathered them, they have to be half angel. Wonder if they have wings? Surely some of them took after their father and had wings? Notice also that it did not say the children of these parents were the giants, as is claimed. It merely states that there were giants in the earth then and also after that. It did not say the children of these unions were the giants. This is how people half read and make up lies.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Now that is God speaking. Unto which of the angels said he (God) at ANY time, thou are my son? Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
He said the angels are spirits, a flame of fire. Does not sound like a being who could physically co-habit with human women and have children to me. God is a Spirit. The way He has children with us is to put his Spirit into us and thus change us into a new creation, making us holy children of God. Yet that does not change our physical make-up as human beings. Angels are not human beings. They are spirits as God is a spirit. So if an angel had children with women, it had to be by putting their spirit into the soul of that woman and changing her into a being which was spirit-possessed. This then would be devil-possessed, because that angel would be usurping the place of God. We are not told that this has ever happened.
I think one of the main reasons people cling to this lie that angels fathered natural children with women is because if they ever accept the truth that these sons of God were not angels, but rather the sons of Adam who did not sin with Adam, then they would have to accept the fact that Satan is not an angel, but is in fact ADAM. The whole word is filled with this evil spirit of Adam, and they do not wish to acknowledge that their father, Adam, is Satan.
Now for proof that it is the sons of Adam who are called sons of God: Lu 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Now let someone find me a verse saying some angel was the son of God. I want to read that. God said think not above that which is WRITTEN. You cannot bring up a doctrine which you cannot prove with WRITTEN SCRIPTURE. It is lies to do so. Where did God say, this angel is my son? I want to read that. Where did God say angels are sons of God? I want to read that. Men adding their ‘thoughts’, and saying this, does not make it true. They are sinning to add their thoughts to God’s Word. You who accept the man’s thoughts above what God told us, are also sinning.
Now back to Genesis six. What was their sin?
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
These sons of God were the men, like Abel and Seth, Enoch and Noah, who had stayed true to God. Many of their children began to marry the daughters of the men who had left off serving God, and were therefore called sons of men, instead of sons of God. God said not to marry sinners. He said for his children not to be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. Scripture shows this is what is meant. Paul made it clear that children of God are only to marry children of God. Those people in the days of Adam knew this word. They knew they should not marry women who had turned away from serving the true God. Yet they disobeyed and went right ahead.
But what was the sin? Look at it: they took them wives of all which they chose.
Mt 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Mt 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Mt 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Ge 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Ge 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Mal 2:14 Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
Mal 2:15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
Now take a real close look at all the above Scriptures. They solidly prove that man was meant to have only ONE wife. God never at any time intended for man to take more than one wife. It was rebellion which caused them to marry more than one woman. Even Adam had this revelation and spoke it when God gave Eve to him. He KNEW he was not to put Eve away and marry others, yet he rebelled and did this thing. His sons followed him in this matter.
Notice, Genesis 6: 2. They chose them WIVES, (more than one) of all which they chose. This is showing that those men married many women, in total rebellion to God. That was the sin. Marrying more than one was the sin. Marrying unbelievers was also wrong. The Word of God had said, the TWO shall be ONE flesh. God told them in Malachi that he gave them one wife for the purpose of seeking a Godly Seed. See then, that they were messing up this search for a Godly Seed. They then brought up children of Belial instead of children of God.
1Sam 2:12: Now the sons of Eli were sons of Belial; they knew not the LORD.
Eli was a high priest, yet his sons were sons of Belial, for they knew not the LORD. So the children of those who disobeyed God became sons of Belial. They were no longer called sons of God.
Jesus was son of man and also son of God. Why? Because in his flesh he was man or son of man, but in his spirit he was Son of God, for he had God’s Spirit in him. So it proves that the sons of man were not serving God, so they were no longer called sons of God. It is just that simple.
Lets examine a few verses here which some people use to call the sons of God angels.
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Now really read that. There is not one word here indicating that these sons of God were angels. For anyone to say that, is certainly adding their own thoughts here. You must find a Scripture revealing it, in order to say that with assurance that it is right. I know of none.
Again, they use this: Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
But see that again there is not one word here saying these sons are angels. It is man’s thoughts, not scripture.
Here is another verse they use claiming that the sons of God were angels. I say this one proves they were separate from angels. Why? Because Revelation shows that stars do represent angels. Read:
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
See it reads like the sons of God were totally different here from the morning stars. So where is anything here saying these sons are angels? If you see that here, please show me.
Then they use this:
1Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
But please explain here where Noah ever preached to angels? I have never read that. They are not these spirits which were disobedient in the days of Noah. That was the people of his day. See how carnal men will stop at nothing to try and prove their own ideas above truth of God’s Word? Ok now they use this verse also: 2pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2pe 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
So where is anything is these verse showing that sons of God are these angels? I see nothing.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
I see nothing in those verse either, which proves sons of God are these angels. Anyone who uses these verses trying to prove angels are those sons of God, are just inserting their own imaginations and not seeking to find truth of God’s Word. For I declare unto you all, there is absolutely nothing in any of these Scriptures saying that the Sons of God were angles, or that angels were the sons of God. It is just not there. But I did show you Scripture that Adam was a son of God. Therefore his children would also be sons of God. There is no other explanation in the Word of God.
Genesis 6: 2, 4 ; and Job 1:6, 2:1, and 38:7 are the ONLY places in the OT where the words, Sons of God, are mentioned. Not one of these shows it is speaking of angels. So when is this term picked up again? John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
See, men did not become Sons of God again until they could come under the blood of Jesus Christ. He had to REDEEM us BACK to God. Adam’s race had lost that. Jesus gave it back to us. It has NEVER, NOT ONE TIME been linked with angels.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Ro 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Ro 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
See this is speaking to human beings, who have come to God by Jesus Christ and have his spirit.
Show me one verse saying angels are children of God?
Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. Ro 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
See, again that verse is speaking of the human beings who come to God by Jesus Christ. It is not speaking of angels.
Php 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
Once again, this is speaking of human beings, not angels. It said, ye. Now someone better find me some verses saying angels are sons of God, or STOP TEACHING YOUR LIES.
1Jo 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 1jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Now the above is the last time the term ‘Sons of God’ is mentioned in Scripture. Again it speaks of us, not angels. How could anyone overlook this much PROOF? Not one single verse calls angels sons of God. I checked every place this term is used and it always referred to human beings. AMEN!
Jo
Be very careful what you believe and what you teach. Many deceivers have gone out into the world. The world is now full of deceivers and deception. If some man sets himself up as a special person in any kind of way, and especially if he is rebellious and proud enough to actually set his own words into the Word of God, then people will just flock to him and believe all his lies above anything God said. It is a sad and serious situation. But people are still filled with that evil spirit of Adam, their father.
As I was meditating before getting up, this came into my mind. What actually was the sin in Genesis six, which set off God’s anger enough to cause him to decide to destroy man?
I think the real truth of their sin has been overlooked. Lets see if it is what you think it is:
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Ge 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Ge 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Ge 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Ge 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Ge 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Ge 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Ge 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
First, let the Word of God establish who these sons of God are right here. This is one of the meanest lies hitting the world today. Carnal men are claiming that these sons of God are angels. No Scripture teaches that angels were ever considered to be sons of God. Besides that, if these angels did have relationships with women and have children by them, as the lie says, then these children would be half angel and half human. Who ever heard of such a thing? No one. Yet I have never heard any of the teachers of this lie admit that these children are half angel. Yet if angels fathered them, they have to be half angel. Wonder if they have wings? Surely some of them took after their father and had wings? Notice also that it did not say the children of these parents were the giants, as is claimed. It merely states that there were giants in the earth then and also after that. It did not say the children of these unions were the giants. This is how people half read and make up lies.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Now that is God speaking. Unto which of the angels said he (God) at ANY time, thou are my son? Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
He said the angels are spirits, a flame of fire. Does not sound like a being who could physically co-habit with human women and have children to me. God is a Spirit. The way He has children with us is to put his Spirit into us and thus change us into a new creation, making us holy children of God. Yet that does not change our physical make-up as human beings. Angels are not human beings. They are spirits as God is a spirit. So if an angel had children with women, it had to be by putting their spirit into the soul of that woman and changing her into a being which was spirit-possessed. This then would be devil-possessed, because that angel would be usurping the place of God. We are not told that this has ever happened.
I think one of the main reasons people cling to this lie that angels fathered natural children with women is because if they ever accept the truth that these sons of God were not angels, but rather the sons of Adam who did not sin with Adam, then they would have to accept the fact that Satan is not an angel, but is in fact ADAM. The whole word is filled with this evil spirit of Adam, and they do not wish to acknowledge that their father, Adam, is Satan.
Now for proof that it is the sons of Adam who are called sons of God: Lu 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Now let someone find me a verse saying some angel was the son of God. I want to read that. God said think not above that which is WRITTEN. You cannot bring up a doctrine which you cannot prove with WRITTEN SCRIPTURE. It is lies to do so. Where did God say, this angel is my son? I want to read that. Where did God say angels are sons of God? I want to read that. Men adding their ‘thoughts’, and saying this, does not make it true. They are sinning to add their thoughts to God’s Word. You who accept the man’s thoughts above what God told us, are also sinning.
Now back to Genesis six. What was their sin?
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
These sons of God were the men, like Abel and Seth, Enoch and Noah, who had stayed true to God. Many of their children began to marry the daughters of the men who had left off serving God, and were therefore called sons of men, instead of sons of God. God said not to marry sinners. He said for his children not to be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. Scripture shows this is what is meant. Paul made it clear that children of God are only to marry children of God. Those people in the days of Adam knew this word. They knew they should not marry women who had turned away from serving the true God. Yet they disobeyed and went right ahead.
But what was the sin? Look at it: they took them wives of all which they chose.
Mt 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Mt 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Mt 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Ge 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Ge 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Mal 2:14 Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
Mal 2:15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
Now take a real close look at all the above Scriptures. They solidly prove that man was meant to have only ONE wife. God never at any time intended for man to take more than one wife. It was rebellion which caused them to marry more than one woman. Even Adam had this revelation and spoke it when God gave Eve to him. He KNEW he was not to put Eve away and marry others, yet he rebelled and did this thing. His sons followed him in this matter.
Notice, Genesis 6: 2. They chose them WIVES, (more than one) of all which they chose. This is showing that those men married many women, in total rebellion to God. That was the sin. Marrying more than one was the sin. Marrying unbelievers was also wrong. The Word of God had said, the TWO shall be ONE flesh. God told them in Malachi that he gave them one wife for the purpose of seeking a Godly Seed. See then, that they were messing up this search for a Godly Seed. They then brought up children of Belial instead of children of God.
1Sam 2:12: Now the sons of Eli were sons of Belial; they knew not the LORD.
Eli was a high priest, yet his sons were sons of Belial, for they knew not the LORD. So the children of those who disobeyed God became sons of Belial. They were no longer called sons of God.
Jesus was son of man and also son of God. Why? Because in his flesh he was man or son of man, but in his spirit he was Son of God, for he had God’s Spirit in him. So it proves that the sons of man were not serving God, so they were no longer called sons of God. It is just that simple.
Lets examine a few verses here which some people use to call the sons of God angels.
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Now really read that. There is not one word here indicating that these sons of God were angels. For anyone to say that, is certainly adding their own thoughts here. You must find a Scripture revealing it, in order to say that with assurance that it is right. I know of none.
Again, they use this: Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
But see that again there is not one word here saying these sons are angels. It is man’s thoughts, not scripture.
Here is another verse they use claiming that the sons of God were angels. I say this one proves they were separate from angels. Why? Because Revelation shows that stars do represent angels. Read:
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
See it reads like the sons of God were totally different here from the morning stars. So where is anything here saying these sons are angels? If you see that here, please show me.
Then they use this:
1Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
But please explain here where Noah ever preached to angels? I have never read that. They are not these spirits which were disobedient in the days of Noah. That was the people of his day. See how carnal men will stop at nothing to try and prove their own ideas above truth of God’s Word? Ok now they use this verse also: 2pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2pe 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
So where is anything is these verse showing that sons of God are these angels? I see nothing.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
I see nothing in those verse either, which proves sons of God are these angels. Anyone who uses these verses trying to prove angels are those sons of God, are just inserting their own imaginations and not seeking to find truth of God’s Word. For I declare unto you all, there is absolutely nothing in any of these Scriptures saying that the Sons of God were angles, or that angels were the sons of God. It is just not there. But I did show you Scripture that Adam was a son of God. Therefore his children would also be sons of God. There is no other explanation in the Word of God.
Genesis 6: 2, 4 ; and Job 1:6, 2:1, and 38:7 are the ONLY places in the OT where the words, Sons of God, are mentioned. Not one of these shows it is speaking of angels. So when is this term picked up again? John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
See, men did not become Sons of God again until they could come under the blood of Jesus Christ. He had to REDEEM us BACK to God. Adam’s race had lost that. Jesus gave it back to us. It has NEVER, NOT ONE TIME been linked with angels.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Ro 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Ro 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
See this is speaking to human beings, who have come to God by Jesus Christ and have his spirit.
Show me one verse saying angels are children of God?
Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. Ro 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
See, again that verse is speaking of the human beings who come to God by Jesus Christ. It is not speaking of angels.
Php 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
Once again, this is speaking of human beings, not angels. It said, ye. Now someone better find me some verses saying angels are sons of God, or STOP TEACHING YOUR LIES.
1Jo 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 1jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Now the above is the last time the term ‘Sons of God’ is mentioned in Scripture. Again it speaks of us, not angels. How could anyone overlook this much PROOF? Not one single verse calls angels sons of God. I checked every place this term is used and it always referred to human beings. AMEN!
Jo