Forty-Two months

[Jo Smith]

Dear Bro. Gibbons,

I asked you to give us Scripture for your statement that the 42 month period has just started. So far, you have chosen not to respond to this request.

So, I will give this board the true Word of God on this matter.

In Rev. 13:1-8--- we are told about the 7-headed beast which made war with the saints of God, overcame them, and killed them. This is born out in Dan.7: 21. Here it says the beast prevailed against the saints UNTIL UNTIL-- THE ANCIENT OF DAYS CAME, AND JUDGEMENT was given to the saints, and they possessed the kingdom. In verse 5 it says power was given unto him (this beast) to continue forty and two months.

Now, this time period is identified as the time allotted to this 'beast' church. Go back to Rev.11:3--the time period for the witnesses is 1,260 days. Now I know if you try to interpretate this as litteral time, it amounts to the same amount of time. But, this is not what is meant here. For, one thing, it is not talking about 'how much time.'

Also, it identifies two different times. One is identified as 'months'. The other one is identified as 'days'. Now, propheticlly this is very important. It is not the same.

Now look at Rev. 12:6--The true church of God was being 'fed' for the same time the witnesses were on the scene. 1,260 days.

Because the 'witnesses' is the true church of God with the truth. They feed their own.

So, you are saying you fit with this time the beast is in power. That is not the witnesses time.

This 42 month period was the tribulation; the time the sleeper church was killing saints all down through the church age. That old sleeper church, with the pope as its earthly head, came into the protestant church, still killing saints; those who dared oppose them. That is proven history.

That third division of the sleeper city is the present day false 'pentecostal' church. But, now it is coming to maturity and showing to be just like 'mama'.

I have already had some of them want to kill me and send me to the lake of fire. This is not the true Holy Ghost; it is satan in disguise.

This will go on till the witnesses are brought back to 'Life' and given power from Heaven once more to witness God to this world. That will be the end of that 42 month period.

That was during the dark ages. The saints (the holy city) being trampled under foot; being overcome and killed.

Jo

p.s. if you can disprove this by the word, then bring forth your proof.

[Jo Smith]

Bro. Dean,

You are completely wrong in your assumptions. Again I say that you do not back up any of what you say with the Word of God. You expect all of us to just believe your unstable words, without a word of proof from God? I do not even do that myself; when God tells me something, I do not accept until He shows me Scriptual proof of it. If you had done that you would have found truth; instead, you are under a horrible delusion.

I certainly hope to be in the number God raises up to put down the evil governments of this world and bring in the Holy Kingdom. But, I certainly do not have delusions of it being only myself and only one other person. That is competely contrary to Scripture or God's way of doing things.

But, if I am not to live till that time, then I thank God for the way He is using me now. I thank him for teaching me His Holy Word Himself.

My only desire is to help other Christians find the truth and be fed the true food from Heaven. I have no desire for self glorying. My God knows that is the truth. I have PLENTY of personal experiences and testimony I could give to people; but I have never done that; for I was more concerned in teaching the wonderful secrets God has revealed to me out of His Word. I did not ever tell anyone I thought I was one of the witness till you said you were; then I knew it was time to tell the real truth to people. But they all know for themselves that you are not teaching the truth.

Did you not read Psm. 149? I guess not. You do not seem to read any of our messages; you seem only concerned with lifting up yourself.

Psm. 149 says ALL--- ALL of God's saints will be in the number who brings the vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the poeple; to bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; to execute upon them the judgment written: THIS HONOUR HAVE ALL HIS SAINTS.

Now, you show us a Scripture saying it will only be 2 litteral men. You know that you can not do it.

Jesus said the whole church ( all saints) are ONE. Now, where does that lift you and Roy up above all the rest of us???

That is the spirit of Satan---wanting to be lifted up above the brethern. Jesus said with His people it shall not be so. So, why are you attempting to break this unity??

Zech. 4 shows that one of the candlesticks (churches) --= the two annointed ones = the witnesses---would be one of the right side of the seven other churches ; and the other one would be on the left side of those seven. Now, please explain how you are on the one side of those seven churches; and this Roy is on the other side?

Also, please explain how you are the olive tree? How are you the candlestick? The word of God shows the tree and the candlestick to be a whole church. So, you are trying to say you and Roy are the only ones in the CHURCH.

Now, let God and the people who read mine and your posts, decide for themselves which one of us explained this with the Word of God.

I have not even one little tiny desire to be any more than all the rest of my brothers and sisters in this great church family.

You need to repent.

Jo

[Jo Smith]

From: joie Sent: 11/23/2001 11:39 PM
Lynette,

I am so very sorry that you totally misunderstand what I am saying. I was also fully aware that you are Dean's daughter -in -law. I have not said one word against his message about the inheritance. In fact, if you will go back, you will find that I have praised that message. I have also commented faivorably to many of his messages. He has never one time read or commented to any of mine or any of the other members.

I have been taught by God out of the Word for many years. The truth of the two witnesses in crystal clear in the Word. I have posted those message here. Have you read them?

Dean was NOT sent here to lead and teach me. God is my leader and teacher. And I am not saying that I can not learn from others. I do. I read others messages and praise them.

I suppose you could not possibly see the insults and beatings I take for My work on the internet. I can assure you, it is probably much greater than Deans.

What you and most people do not realize is that for someone like my messages to Dean, this is the true LOVE. For without this kind of correction, they will lose out with God. Paul did this; all the true ministers do this.

Dean has a few times gotten pretty hard on people himself. This is not a lack of love.

And for you to say that to 'worship' idols is better than offending someone is so very wrong. The offence is to lead that person wrong. Idolarty is adultry against God himself. No one will enter the kingdom of God being guilty of this evil. We must be true to God first and above all else. Compromise for the sake of pleasing people is NOT Christianity. Paul certainlly OFFENDED many people, if that is how you see it. He called old Alexander the copper smith some pretty ugly stuff; he had no qualms about identifying false workers. John did the same thing. He told them about old
Diathrees wanting to have the premenance in the church. This is part of the work of God.

For me to try to teach people of this evil is the greatest possible love. Just going along with sin to soft-soap people will d**n their souls.

The only thing I have spoken again Dean is this thing of saying that He and this Roy are solely the 2 witnesses. This is just not true.

You ask how I can say that if it is not in God's word it is not true; Lynette, if one teaches something not in God's Word, then they would have to be teaching lies; after all, where is the authority to teach something not in the word? Where is the proof it is true? God said let His Word be true and every man's a lie. This means that any man who says something God did not tell us, is putting his words up above God's word. It would have to be lies. God said not to add to his word, not to take away from it. So it has to be written in the Word to be true.

You made the same mistake so many others have made about me. You read into my messages 'anger'. The anger is on your part; not mine. I know for a fact that I am not angery. I hate sin and lies. That is Godly.

Dean is false in the fact that he claims to be one of the witnesses and Roy the OTHER one. God's Word proves that all the true saints of God are going to do this witness work. Just as that first annointed church in Peter's day did that first witness work. It was a whole church; not just 2 people. It will be the same today.

I am sorry you feel this way about this. But, you really should study the messages I have shown here out of the Word of God about the witnesses. Personal feelings do not enter into the work of God. If it is my own child, (and I have some) I have to tell them they are wrong. That is the only true work for God.

You will see some day, that idol worship, (these holidays) is bringing God's wrath on this nation. It is what caused God to do away with ancient Israel. He will do away with this modern day church for this thing too.

Teaching truth is the only true love there is. To deceive people, is to hate their souls. I have not said one thing against Dean as a person. As a teacher, he is false; for he is lifting up himself. That is wrong. Jesus even said if I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. We are not to witness of ourselves.

Dean tries too hard to make people see that he is something special. It is not true. We are all ONE. Anyone who wants it different is wrong.

Do as you feel you must. But I pray that your understanding will be opened. Your following Deans' teaching had not one thing to do with my asking you to be a manager. I see in you a true Christian spirit. At least I did.

Jo

[Jo Smith]

From: joie Sent: 11/24/2001 9:58 AM
God has greatly dealt with me since my last writting here. This is what He has shown me to tell you all.

This soft, easy, deceiving 'spirit' of our day is not of God; but of Satan. Many of you are laboring under the deception that this is the 'spirit' of love; but it is the spirit of destruction.

Proof:

Isiah 58:1---Cry ALOUD, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and SHOW my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

This shows that God told His ministers to cry aloud and show people their sins. This is not done by just saying things like 'oh you can just do as you please; don't ever rebuke anything; you might 'offend' someone; this is not Christian love to show people what God requires; after all, each person has a right to please themselves; it is better to sin than to 'offend'.

People, I tell you in the name of the Lord Jesus, this is deception from Satan and will send you to hell fire.

I am doing as God commanded; lifting up my voice to show you your sins. This is the ONLY thing which will get you to God and eternal life.

Read Eze. 23---Here he is telling how Jerusalem played the sleeper and fell away from God.
v42--And a voice of a multitude being at EASE was with her: and with the men of the common sort were brought Sabeans from the wilderness, which put bracelets upon their hands, and beautiful crowns upon their heads.

Now, this shows that they were at EASE; in other words, no one was lifting up their voice against their sins to make them unease enough to get them to repent.
Then men God did not care, for made them resplended with jewlery and lovely crowns on their heads; in other words, they were petted and pampered and spoiled and dressed any way that suited their own lusts.

Ever since I first started teaching on computer, I have had to BATTLE with people, thinking they are Christians, fighting me about trying to show people the Holy ways of God. Trying to show them their sins; according to the Word of God.

There people are deceived by Satan into thinking that we must never say a thing that would 'offend' someone. They mistakeningly believe that this is the way to show 'love'.

They must not ever study the Scriptures. God had his servants REBUKING people for their sins from the beginning.

That is the only way to help people. THAT is the true love. Those who just let you do any old way are the enemy of your soul.

Read what Peter said to the soceror Simon: he said you have neither part nor lot in this matter thy child of the devil. Strong stuff, eay.

Jeremiah even told the king that unless he did as told by the prophet from God, that he would be destroyed. He did not say oh well, just do as you please; for this is love. Phooy! Foolishness, foolishness!!!!!!

Like me or hate me, it mattters not! I am telling you the TRUTH. You must have never heard true ministery; for you run like scared rabbits when told truth straight, with no curves and compramisses.

I may not spell right, but so what? You can tell what I mean.

I could go on and on with this sort of thing but who would read it?

The Word is full, from the start to the finish of God's true ministers rebuking people for their sins. For unless someone shows you your sins , and get you to repent, you will be destroyed in hell fire.

So, now, what is LOVE?

Would you rather have a doctor who would lie to you and say you are alright; when you are eat up with cancer, and not try to help you; or one who told you the truth and got you the help you needed and saved your life
Decide for your selves.

Jo

[Jo Smith]

From: joie Sent: 11/24/2001 10:16 AM
I just reread something Dean said to me. People, look at this. Lynette, look at this; you too, Dean.

You said to me that I wanted power; and that it was offered to me in the message on the inhertrance message; and that I rejected it and therefore will not have it. I tell you, this is nothing but the spirit of soccery.

You are trying to tell me the only way I can have power from God is to get it from you and your teaching. Phooy!! My God, His Holy Word gives me what He wants me to have. I had it long before I head of you; and you can't take it away. I have dealt, in person, with men stronger in this 'soccery' than you are. They did not fool me either. They also tried to deceive people into thinking they could only get things from God through them.

This is also how the pope opperates. Better see where you are.

Lynette, you told me not to throw this away again; throw WHAT away again? I had God long before you and Dean came along. You can not give things of God to us and seeing through his deception is not going to take it away.

I have God. You can not take Him away from me. I call you (Dean)--a soccery. For that is what the spirit of soccery is----giving out that yourself is some great one.

Jesus said to those who wanted to be the greatest---over the others---that with you (Christians) it will NOT be so. Those who desire this are deceived and trying to deceive others.

The reason I said that Dean says only he and Roy are saints is because he admitted in his own post that Psm. 149 was speaking of the job of the witnesses. He quoted where it said this hounour have ALL his saints. Yet, he claims that only he and Roy are these witnesses. So, therefore this is the same as saying he thinks only he and Roy are saints. This is how I know he is deceived. It does not fit the Word. Now, maybe you think you can just take someone's word for a thing; even though it is not written in God's Word. But I DO NOT!!!. For that is to add to God's Word; that is saying I accept a mere man's word as God's word.

I can only pray that your understanding will be opened. But, Dean will not even read anyone else's messages, so therefore he cuts himself off from the things God has shown others.

Jo

[Jo Smith]

From: joie Sent: 11/24/2001 11:05 AM
Lynette,

You asked me where is the 'gentle' wisdom? Now I ask you and everyone else, have you ever really read Matt. 23? I ask every one of you to go and carefully read that whole chapter. Think about what Jesus is saying.

I would love to write it all here; but it would be too long. Read it in your own Word.

If you can see this as 'soft' wisdom, I say you are deceived.

Jesus called the religious leaders of his day HYPOCRITES, fools, blind, blind guides, and v33serpents, vipers, said how can ye escape the d**ntion of hell?

He told them one sin after another all down through this chapter. He called them hypocrites many times. He warned the people not to follow their example.

Now, I ask you, where have I done anywhere near that BAD to Dean or any one else. If this 'soft' stuff you call love, is right, where did Jesus show it to these scribes, lawers, and Pharisees and priests?

And this is not the only time Jesus displayed this kind of stuff. All his disciples also did this kind of thing. Now I ask you, WHERE did you get your distorted idea of what LOVE is?

You know what we now have in America (the so-called Christian nation?)

We have a whole nation full of women walking around in open defiance of the living God. We have a whole nation full of men in open defiance of God. We have laws passed against God and everything Holy.

God said for women to be keepers at home. But what does American women do? They all go out and get a job. They jerk their little babies up out of bed early, most are ill as hornets because of the presure they are under; they scream and jerk their little ones around trying desperately to get them read to go spend the day with someone they do not know; someone who does not love them; they too, are out there doing a job;

they send the schoolers off without breakfast, upset from the atmosphere in the home, to go face the horrors of public school;--when they all arrive back 'home', the mother is tired to death, upset from things at work (where she should not have been in the first place)--she must now try to get food ready, the children are tired, upset, long for love, they sit before the evil t.v. and absorb hideous evil into their minds,---then war breaks out as mother tries to get them to bathe, brush teeth, do homework, get to bed---then next morning, it starts all over again.

All because:

they must have one or more t.v.--, a boat, a v.c.r.---several cars --expensive furniture--etc. etc.
The daddy needs so much, he would not live with the mother unless she goes out and helps him acquire all these things. He has to have his liquor, beer, cigarettes, movies, golf clubs and parties, and much more. Love not the world and the things of the world; if any loves the things of the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Then, when a mother wanted to stay home, the daddy goes out and gets another woman (or man)---they divorce, then this poor mother is FORCED to go to that 'hell'.

This woman wears pants and short hair (in open defiance of God)--then they must spend a fortune to satisfy this idol Santa Claus---Then they must spend a fortune to celebrate each person's birthday---then another fortune for vacation---then easter---halloween--thanksgiving--

Now, you tell me how did it get this way? Because of 'soft' love---because the heirlings (paid preachers) could not do as Jesus did--scauld them with truth. Get them straightened out.

If he lifted up his voice as a trumpet to show them their sins, he would loose his 'job'. So, he comprimised; after all, the heirling does not love the sheep---so when he sees the wolf coming, he runs and hides---for if he cried 'wolf' all would run him off and hate him and call him ugly names.

Need I say more? Now hate me!!

I told you the truth!! I do not appoligize for it.

IF you could get back to living life according to God's commands all this misery and evil would stop.

Instead of children killing others, stealing, cursing, raping, disobeying parents, and being upset all the time, we could have peaceful, loving homes, Christian children----but no!!! These children are sacrificed to devils---the devils of lusts---of greed---of having 'things'. And you love to have it so.

Tell women and men for her to quit work and stay home and give those children what they need growing up---and all hell would break out. You would be dubed an evil person. You have no love--you are hard--you are evil--I know --it happens to me all the time.

So now, where is your right to just choose for yourselves how you will do?

Your homes are in hell---this nation is also.

So you prove you can not take truth---that is why you set so upset when someone lifts up their voice against these things.

Jo

[Jo Smith]

From: joie Sent: 11/24/2001 8:09 PM
Dean Gibbons,
I suppose you overlooked Lynette's outburst to me!! That is suppossed to be all right.

I did not 'outburst' at her; I only answer her many and varied false accsuations against me. If you knew as much as I do about the Word of God, you would not be going all over the internet telling people that you and Roy are the only ones involved in the two witness of God. That is the height of deception.

You are also still following all the previous false teachings that the great tribulation has not come yet. If you knew the word, you would know that it says they were in tribulation all during the church period.
I frankly have not seen you expond the Scriptures yet.

If you think it is all right to keep idol holidays and for women to wear pants, you should fold up as a teacher; for you are leading souls astray

I have not said one word against Lynette. Nor have I said one word aginst you. I only pointed out that your notion of being the witness with Roy is FALSE. I tell you in the name of Jesus it is FALSE.

You do not know one thing about my feelings. You are lying when you say I would destroy people out of hatred. You are telling the world that you and Roy will destroy people. You have placed yourself in the seat of judge. You know not one thing of my heart. I teach truth to try to help others have a greater relationship with God. All you do is try to make people fear and look up to DEAN. Well, it is not Christian. It is vanity; it is trying to be lord to people.

Well you are not my lord, nor my teacher, nor my leader. I do not see the truth in you.

You can not and will not admit that you are wrong. You will not even read any one else's messages. You are too far above us for that. I have never seen where you answered to another person's messages. That is the height of self - importance and deceit and vanity.

You need to repent.

I love Lynette; but if she does not want to be here because I know that you and Roy are not the two witnesses, then so be it. If she wants x-mas, let her do the idols. If she wants pants, let her be an abomination to God. I tried to warn her and the others. God's wrath will come upon this hypocritical bunch which wants the name of being a Christian; but do not want to obey God.

Jo

[Jo Smith]

From: joie Sent: 11/18/2001 10:33 AM
Heb. 11:5---By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see DEATH; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
v6--But without faith it is impossible to please him---

Faith is simply BELIEVING God: believing what God says.

Where did God say the two witnesses are Enoch and Elijah? I ask for one Scripture saying this. You must learn to study the Word and only believe a thing if it is WRITTEN. If it is not WRITTEN, it is man-made lies.

Psm. 149 tells us that ALL God's SAINTS will be given power to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will. This honour have ALL his saints.

People, study and believe the WRITTEN WORD. Else, you will never know truth.

Jo

From: joie Sent: 11/22/2001 8:29 PM
Dean, the Saints are the Holy Ghost filled, Sanctified, Holy living children of God. They are the people who LOVE Righteousness and HATE iniquity!!! They are the people who obey the Word of God because they LOVE to do the things God said pleases Him!! The children of Zion are the true children of the Living God!!!

They are NOT the church members. They are the Called-out ones. They are the ones who obeyed the call to come out of her my people, that you be not partakers of her sins; that you receive not of her plagues. They are the ones who are NOT partaking of all these pagan, heathen, idol, devil worship holidays; such as x-mas, easter, halloween, etc. etc. These are NOT the true children of God---the ones running madly from one heathen day to another. Those who can't wait to get up from their idol turkey, to get to the stores to buy those idol, monster toys to deceive their children with.

Dean, the children of Zion are the true children of God. All those millions and zillions of 'church goers' are NOT the children of God. They are the ones WE will execute judgment upon.

That is why they can not give their IDOLS up. That is why they can not live HOLY. That is why women have to wear pants like a man; and men prefer men to women. Yet, they will all go to church and sing Oh how I love Jesus. What a lie!!

Not all who say to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter in, but those who do the will of God.
Dean, those who DO the will of God, these are the witnesses.

Do you seriously believe that only you and Roy obey God? Do you celebrate x-mas? If you do, you are NOT one of the witnesses; for you are worshiping idols.

I knew two men years ago; brothers; both preachers; who claimed to be the 2 witnesses. They are both dead now. Both had leg amputations before death due to diabetees.

But, as far as I can tell, the work of the witnesses is still ahead of us.

I am one of them. And you can not make it not be true. I teach the truth of God's Word. You do not. Some of what you say is true; but you do no prove all things by the Word. You did not prove that you and Roy are the witnesees by the word. You cannot.

For those believeing it is O.T. prophets, I say you need to study the Word more. Jesus said the law and the prophets were UNTILL JOHN (meaning John the Baptist). This tells us that there will never be any more O.T. Prophets since John the Baptist. If so, then we would have to go back to the O.T. law, the O.T. covenant ; which was sanctified by the blood of bulls and goats. That would amount to doing away with the sacrifice of Jesus. Abomination !!!

Dean, you need to seek truth and be willing to accept it. If not God will cut you off. You are the one 'mocking' God; pretending that only you and Roy are the children of Zion; pretending only you and Roy are Saints. Did you not read the Scripture you wrote? This honour have ALL His saints? All His Saints!!! I am one of them.

Praise my Holy God for truth. Dean, you are false.

Jo