True 'mark of the beast'

[isaiah]

I am placing here my answer to the thing Littleflock posted about the mark of the beast. Since that thread is so wide, [making it hard to read] I am starting another one here. Anyone who wishes to discuss and study this subject, place your Scripture and thoughts here.

This is the most misunderstood and distorted subject in the Word of God. Everyone has made up stupid junk trying to interpret this in a carnal sense APART from the Written Word of God.

You will NEVER find any truth APART FROM THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD.
DO YOU ALL IMAGINE THAT GOD BROUGHT UP THESE SUBJECTS FOR MYSTERY.........THEN LEFT OUT THE ANSWERS??? WHAT KIND OF GOD DO YOU TAKE HIM TO BE?

Surely you must realize that the answers are WRITTEN IN THE WORD OF GOD.
So go study and find the answers in the Word. Don't make up stuff and don't accept made up stuff! You are calling God a lie to teach made up junk.
Littleflock, all this 'messy' sinful stuff has NOT ONE THING TO DO WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST WHICH THE WORD OF GOD SPEAKS OF!!

My goodness! When will people quit trying to 'figure' out the Word of God and make up mess to interpret it with? Why not study the Word and find the correct answers, then get in here and help me teach the world the real TRUTH??

Is there not one soul out there who desires the real TRUTH??

hAVE ANY of you ever searched the Scriptures, as Jesus told us to do...........to find the answer as to what the mark of the beast is? Do any of you have a clue as to what the BEAST is?

I have message after message in this group proving all these things with SCRIPTURE.....NOT WORLDLY MESSY PICTURES OF SINFUL HUMAN WOMEN!!!!AND SINFUL MEN!!!Littleflock, do you REALLY think that this sinful woman, and all the others like her, is REALLY what God was prophesying about thousands of years ago? How could you think this is the answer?

Do you not understand that the mark of the beast set in in the Garden of Eden with the serpent, Adam and Cain?

The LOVE OF MONEY is the ROOT of all evil! There is your clue.
buying and selling the things of God is this mark!

True Christians do the work of God FREELY. Freely you have received........freely GIVE.

That is the mark of a true child of God.

Pay for what you get......filthy lucre....receive wages for preaching....pay for forgiveness of sins....pay the preacher.....pay the musicians and singers......and the cleaners....and the priests.....and the.....ones who perform weddings,,,,,and funerals....and anything else they can stick a price tag on....in the name of religion is THIS EVIL MARK......OF THE EVIL BEAST......THE ADAMS OF THIS WORLD.

OLD JERUSALEM IS THE GUILTY ONE......SHE.... A CHURCH] FIRST THE LAW NATION OF ISRAEL.....NOW THE CHURCH.....IS THIS EVIL WOMAN....NOT BRITTNEY SPEARS......DECEIVING SOULS INTO THINKING THEY ARE SAVED WHEN THEY ARE LOST AND ON THEIR WAY TO HELL IS THE REAL SIN OF THE REAL FILTHY WHORE.........
THE VERY CHURCH YOU ALL DOTE SO MUCH ON.......
THERE IS THE CULPRIT......
THE BEAST...HUMAN FLESH........
AWAY FROM GOD......SERVING SIN......
USING RELIGION TO COVER IT UP.......
TAKING MONEY FOR THE WORK OF GOD........
YOU ARE MARKED THAT YOU BELONG TO THE BUYING AND SELLING CHURCH.

NOT THE FREELY GIVING TRUE CHURCH.

DO YOU BUY AND SELL.........OR DO YOU GIVE?
YOU ARE MARKED BY ONE OR THE OTHER.......
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US.....HUMAN BEINGS......
HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER MARK.

Ariel, where is any wisdom of God in your worldly sinful picture? How does that teach any Mark of the Beast? I told you exactly what the Mark of the Beast is in my message. Can you not understand it? It is really simple.

Now if you wish for me to answer your questions, for our comparison, then you need to also give your answers. Do not expect me to answer then you never give any answers. What do you think the answer is? Some naked woman? Marilyn Monroe beat her to it! Was she the mark?

Surely you must realize that these things are SPIRITUAL. The Word of God is spiritual; about spiritual things.

The CHURCH is the sinful, harlot woman the Word is speaking of. The CHURCH is riding that beast. The beast is human flesh.

the mark is BUYING AND SELLING THE THINGS OF GOD. in other words, doing the Work of God [or church stuff] for MONEY.
Charging for doing the work of God. Receiving pay for preaching. All of this is the mark of the beast.

JO

[isaiah]

From: joie Sent: 7/24/2005 11:57 PM
Littleflock, I will show you the truth of the Word about this subject, if you are willing to study with me and take it slowly. This will take a lot of doing to completely open this matter up.

It is not going to come clear by saying just a few sentences. If you desire truth, if any of you desire truth, then let's study this subject.
We need to do this study.
We should have done it a long time ago.

Almost everyone is mixed up on this subject and imagining all kinds of foolish stuff and yet falling right into the trap of this mark, because you have been deceived into thinking it is some foolish silly carnal junk.

Now let me show you something from Revelation:

<NOBR>Re 13:1</NOBR> And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
<NOBR>Re 12:3</NOBR> And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
<NOBR>Re 12:4</NOBR> And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Now notice the discription of the kingdom of Satan in heaven: it had seven heads and ten horns. It was red = color of sin. [also Adam means to be made red]

Notice, the very same discription of the beast which rose up out of the sea. It was the very same kingdom of Satan. See, it has exactly the same discription. It is the same thing.

Satan's kingdom came up on earth through mankind.

It is that law system. The ten commandments are those ten horns. It is the power of that law.

Law is the kingdom of Satan. Now I know you will not see this, but it is the truth. There were only two 'trees' in the Garden of God = the Tree of life =Grace

and the tree of knowledge of good and evil = law.

By the law came sin and death.

Only by GRACE can we be saved........so law is the enemy..or kingdom of Satan........God never placed anyone under law. God hates the law system.

[God's commandments are not the same thing]

But see that the kingdom Satan has the very same discription as the beast out of the sea. So they are the same thing. Satan set up his kingdom on earth in mankind. It was evidenced in the nation Of Israel.....now that law nation set up the church system we see on earth today......they are blind, naked, [see that naked woman there?]........wretched, poor and headed to hell fire.

They charge for everything they do.....you must pay, and pay and pay. It is money. It is the mark of this beast.

Jesus said FREELY YOU HAVE RECEIVED, FREELY GIVE.

She, [that naked woman; church] says:
<NOBR>Re 13:16</NOBR> And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
<NOBR>Re 13:17</NOBR> And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Now read verse 17 carefully! It said no man might [be able to] buy or sell, save he that had the mark. Now that word, SAVE means except or unless.

No man can buy or sell unless, except, they have this MARK. They cannot buy and sell the things of God unless they are marked with this love for money. It has been the mark of Satan, Adam from the very beginning. That is why he took it into merchandizing, which Jesus forbids.

Make not my Father's house a house of merchandize.

A true child of God CANNOT take pay for what he does for God. My Spirit has never let me take pay for anything I do. The things of God are FREE.

When Peter healed the crippled man, he said "such as I have, GIVE I unto thee'.

Where are any minister today with this attitude?

[isaiah]

From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn22</NOBR> Sent: 11/11/2005 7:23 PM
Jen, or anyone else here who wishes to learn the truth of this church in our land today, here is much proof in these short messages. I found this and saw that it is exactly the answer to Jen's questions.

We have a long full message here on this mark of the beast. but this short thread will reveal this truth to anyone who has ears to hear.

See that the church is indicated here as the naked whore against God. She is the one involved in this buying and selling of the spiritual things, which is the mark of the beast.

truth is here if anyone wishes to find it. it seems to me that almost everyone loves the lies more than the truth. Why? why, do 'christians' love the lies of that whore instead of God's clear truth?