I have forsaken her

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Jer. 12: 6. For even thy brethren, and the house of thy father, even they have dealt treacherously with thee; yea, they have called a multitude after thee: believe them not, though they speak fair words unto thee.


7. I have forsaken mine house, I have left mine heritage; I have given the dearly beloved of my soul into the hand of her enemies.
8. Mine heritage is unto me as a lion in the forest; it crieth out against me: therefore have I hated it.


9. Mine heritage is unto me as a speckled bird, the birds round about are against her; come ye, assemble all the beasts of the field, come to devour.
10. Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.

(Here He spoke of the O.T. pastors = the prophets, priests, and kings, led them astray) --- in the church the same thing happened, the pastors led them astray again by taking them BACK to the law).


11. They have made it desolate, and being desolate it mourneth unto me; the whole land is made desolate, because no man layeth it to heart.
12. The spoilers are come upon all high places through the wilderness: for the sword of the Lord shall devour from the one end of the land even to the other end of the land: no flesh shall have peace.


13. They have sown wheat, but shall reap thorns: they have put themselves to pain, but shall not profit: and they shall be ashamed of your revenues because of the fierce anger of the Lord.

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If you go back and study on the 'thorns' you will find that these are they who try to go by the works of the law.

So the problem with Israel of old, she tried to go by law, after Jesus brought in Grace. So, instead of wheat, they bore thorns; that which bears thorns is ready for destruction. (Heb.)

Now, she was in PAIN, but to no PROFIT -----~

Isa. 26: 17. Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O Lord.


18. We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.

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See here, he said the O.T. Covenant had been in PAIN, but had brought forth NO deliverance.

That is the same pain spoken of in the Jer. scripture above. It shows this is speaking of the same one.


19. Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.


20. Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21. For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

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Now, back to Jer. 12: 15. And it shall come to pass, after that I have plucked them out I will return, and have compassion on them, and will bring them again, every man to his heritage, and every man to his land.


16. And it shall come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of my people, to swear by my name, The Lord liveth; as they taught my people to swear by Baal; then shall they be built in the midst of my people.
17. But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the Lord.

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This is prophecy that at the Day of Pentecost, God would bring the obedient Israelites back to Him and place them again as His people ~~~ that is IF THEY WOULD OBEY THE NEW COVENANT.

JO

[isaiah]

From: joie Sent: 9/14/2002 3:21 PM

Jer. 12: 6. For even thy brethren, and the house of thy father, even they have dealt treacherously with thee; yea, they have called a multitude after thee: believe them not, though they speak fair words unto thee.

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I wanted to point out that this verse is God speaking to Jesus, telling Him that His brethren, the Jews, had dealt treacherously with him; they spoke fair words to his face; but prepared war (death) for him behind his back.

JO

[isaiah]

From: joie Sent: 9/18/2002 1:32 PM
Gal. 5:14~~~~~ For ALL the LAW is FULFILLED in ONE word, even in this; Thou shalt LOVE thy neighbour as thyself.

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ALL the LAW is FULFILLED in ONE WORD-

LOVE.

ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED IN ONE WORD LOVE ---- LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF.

DO UNTO OTHERS AS AS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.

Thus, you are not UNDER law , but rather fulfilling the law by Grace, = LOVE. Not the WORKS of the LAW.

LOVE!!!!!!!!

[isaiah]

From: joie Sent: 9/22/2002 8:44 PM

Isa. 24: 15. Wherefore glorify ye the Lord in the fires, even the name of the Lord God of Israel in the isles of the sea.


16. From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.
17. Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.


18. And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
19. The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.


20. The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
21. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.


22. And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.


23. Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Jo

[isaiah]

From: joie Sent: 9/22/2002 8:46 PM
woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously
The treacherous dealers are the religious hypocrites who have taught deception and deceived the people away from God's truth.

[isaiah]

From: joie Sent: 12/12/2002 10:40 AM

Another thing: many times now and in the past, Satan has slyly sent his evil workers in here to set up stupid foolish arguings over nothing, to keep their ungodly mess at the top. This causes those who come here to read and study God's Word to have nothing except bickering and battling over foolishness to read.

That is all they see on the top half of the first page. And I can assure you, that is all most people ever take the time to look at. So what do they see when they visit here? Junk spead everywhere. the work of devils. And know what? I let myself get caught off guard many time and allow this to continue day after day.

I sit here wearing myself out trying to set something straight with someone who has no interest in anything except destroying the Work of God which is being done here.

I am fully aware of this now. And I intend with the help of God to stop it. As I said, anyone who does not like it, is fully free to go elsewhere. In fact I hope they do.

God will give these messages to the ones He wants to have them. But it is up to us managers to see that some good, truthful messages stay at the top of this first page. In fact I intend to fill up this page with good stuff and keep it that way.

So all you little workers of satan, be warned, I will DELETE YOUR MESS IF I HAVE TO TO KEEP IT OF MY FIRST PAGE.

So anyone who continues to bring those 'NOTHING' messages to the top, I will delete them.

I am in a battle for God and the souls of those who desire eternal life. I intend to fight a good fight as Paul did.

So help me God.

Jo

[isaiah]

From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 7/12/2001 12:52 PM

John 4:13-26--------Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:

14...But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

15...The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.

16....Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.

17,,,,The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:

18....For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

19,,,,The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou are a prophet.

20....Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

21....Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22...Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

23..But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24....God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

25....The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

26....Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

Reading the Word this morning, this was shown to me. Jesus rejected the earthly Jerusalem right then and there as having anything to do with worship. It is shown that worship has nothing to do with any place or building. True worship is in spirit and truth.. This is anywhere you might be at all times. Worship is to be our hearts giving thanks to God always. It will never turn back to being something that has to be done at a certain place or time..