Post by Jo Smith on Dec 6, 2008 21:18:30 GMT -5
From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 7/10/2004 2:00 PM
~ Is Satan God’s Son?~
I am asking you a question-- answer not from you own thoughts, but from the Word of God. If you say no, then I ask you to answer this Word in Job. The question: Is Satan a son of God?
Find Scripture for the answer.
Here is my answer:
Job 1: 6. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7. And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8. And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9. Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10. Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12. And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.
Job 2
1. Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
2. And the Lord said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
3. And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
4. And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
5. But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.
6. And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
7. So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.
Now the first thing to find and answer for yourself from this passage of Scripture is WHY WAS SATAN COMING TO PRESENT HIMSELF BEFORE THE LORD ON THE DAY GOD SET FOR HIS SONS TO COME AND PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD?
WHY WAS SATAN THERE PRESENTING HIMSELF BEFORE GOD? I say there could be only one reason - he was a son of God. Else he could not have been at that meeting. If he were NOT a son of God, why did not God ever make it clear that he was not supposed to be there at that meeting of the sons of God?
Notice that there is never even one word said between Satan and God to indicate that Satan did not have the same right to be there as any other son of God?
Notice also the power God placed into the beings hands to go and smite Job as he did? Why?
Now for the next thing I want to point out from this Scripture is this:
When God asked Satan where he came from, Satan answered , from going to and fro in the earth and walking up and down in it.
Now why is this stated in the Scripture here? For one reason; and that is to positively identify this being, Satan as the Adam, Cain spirit.
Why? Look up fugitive in the Strong’s concordance. It says: in #5128-- fugitive - make to go up and down, be gone away, move . to and fro, be vagabond.. wander (up and down)
Now what does this show? What was Cain’s punishment? He was made to be a fugitive and a vagabond. So Satan said he came from doing what Cain was made to do - go to and fro, walk up and down in the earth.
People, every word in the Written Word is there for a purpose. It is there for our learning. So what can we learn from this? That Satan is Cain. Satan is Adam. This is their punishment, to be made to go to and fro, to walk up and down in the earth, to be a fugitive and a vagabond.
John 6: 70. Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71. He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Now in this Scripture Jesus called Judas a devil. Why would he call this human man a devil?
Rev. 12: 9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
See, here it called that old serpent the devil. So this ties this man, that old serpent, and the devil together.
Now I want to point out why the thing is said twice in Job about Satan coming to present himself to God with God’s Sons. The Word said in the mouth of two or three witnesses let every word be established. So here God has established that Satan goes before God with His Sons. This, to me, identifies Satan as a Son of God. I say this has to be Adam and Cain, and the rest of man-kind. The reason I say this is Judas is also called a devil. Jesus called Peter Satan. Jesus called the Priests and Pharisees serpents.
There you have all three titles for Satan: Judas, a devil; Peter, Satan, the hypocrite priests and Pharisees, serpents.
Now if any of you can show how this is not true to the Word of God, please do so.
By Jo Smith, March 1, 2003
~ Is Satan God’s Son?~
I am asking you a question-- answer not from you own thoughts, but from the Word of God. If you say no, then I ask you to answer this Word in Job. The question: Is Satan a son of God?
Find Scripture for the answer.
Here is my answer:
Job 1: 6. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7. And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8. And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9. Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10. Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12. And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.
Job 2
1. Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
2. And the Lord said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
3. And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
4. And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
5. But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.
6. And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
7. So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.
Now the first thing to find and answer for yourself from this passage of Scripture is WHY WAS SATAN COMING TO PRESENT HIMSELF BEFORE THE LORD ON THE DAY GOD SET FOR HIS SONS TO COME AND PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD?
WHY WAS SATAN THERE PRESENTING HIMSELF BEFORE GOD? I say there could be only one reason - he was a son of God. Else he could not have been at that meeting. If he were NOT a son of God, why did not God ever make it clear that he was not supposed to be there at that meeting of the sons of God?
Notice that there is never even one word said between Satan and God to indicate that Satan did not have the same right to be there as any other son of God?
Notice also the power God placed into the beings hands to go and smite Job as he did? Why?
Now for the next thing I want to point out from this Scripture is this:
When God asked Satan where he came from, Satan answered , from going to and fro in the earth and walking up and down in it.
Now why is this stated in the Scripture here? For one reason; and that is to positively identify this being, Satan as the Adam, Cain spirit.
Why? Look up fugitive in the Strong’s concordance. It says: in #5128-- fugitive - make to go up and down, be gone away, move . to and fro, be vagabond.. wander (up and down)
Now what does this show? What was Cain’s punishment? He was made to be a fugitive and a vagabond. So Satan said he came from doing what Cain was made to do - go to and fro, walk up and down in the earth.
People, every word in the Written Word is there for a purpose. It is there for our learning. So what can we learn from this? That Satan is Cain. Satan is Adam. This is their punishment, to be made to go to and fro, to walk up and down in the earth, to be a fugitive and a vagabond.
John 6: 70. Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71. He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Now in this Scripture Jesus called Judas a devil. Why would he call this human man a devil?
Rev. 12: 9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
See, here it called that old serpent the devil. So this ties this man, that old serpent, and the devil together.
Now I want to point out why the thing is said twice in Job about Satan coming to present himself to God with God’s Sons. The Word said in the mouth of two or three witnesses let every word be established. So here God has established that Satan goes before God with His Sons. This, to me, identifies Satan as a Son of God. I say this has to be Adam and Cain, and the rest of man-kind. The reason I say this is Judas is also called a devil. Jesus called Peter Satan. Jesus called the Priests and Pharisees serpents.
There you have all three titles for Satan: Judas, a devil; Peter, Satan, the hypocrite priests and Pharisees, serpents.
Now if any of you can show how this is not true to the Word of God, please do so.
By Jo Smith, March 1, 2003