Post by Jo Smith on Aug 26, 2009 21:16:16 GMT -5
~~ Demons or Devils ~~
The word ‘demons’ is not even in Scripture. God calls those spirits, devils. Some people say they are disembodied spirits. If so they had to have at one time belonged to a body. If they are disembodied, then they had to have a body at some time. God created everything. But we have no record that God created any devil. Why would God create a devil?
Do devils tempt us to do evil? James 1:13-18
13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
So that Scripture makes it very clear that people are tempted by their own lust. So it is the devil? Revelation shows that the devil is the same as the serpent, the dragon and Satan.
So the thing is you have to prove what or who that devil is. In order to make this message a bit shorter, for now, I will just tell you, rather than trying to prove it, for I have many messages already proving that Adam is Satan.
So if Adam is Satan, serpent, dragon, and devil, it is not some angel. Adam was a man. So his spirit, the Adam-spirit, is Satan. Then if a man is tempted by being drawn away of his own lust, then he himself is that devil. It is man’s spirit. But there is more.
It is not necessarily the spirit of the individual. If one is possessed with devils, and they can be cast out, then it is not that person’s own human spirit, but the spirit of someone else. How can this be? Something very few know, but God revealed to me.
Job 27: 7 Let mine enemy be as the wicked, and he that riseth up against me as the unrighteous. 8 For what is the hope of the hypocrite, though he hath gained, when God taketh away his soul?
9 Will God hear his cry when trouble cometh upon him? 10 Will he delight himself in the Almighty? will he always call upon God?
13 This is the portion of a wicked man with God, and the heritage of oppressors, which they shall receive of the Almighty. 14 If his children be multiplied, it is for the sword: and his offspring shall not be satisfied with bread. 15 Those that remain of him shall be buried in death: and his widows shall not weep. 16 Though he heap up silver as the dust, and prepare raiment as the clay;
17 He may prepare it, but the just shall put it on, and the innocent shall divide the silver. 18 He buildeth his house as a moth, and as a booth that the keeper maketh.
19 The rich man shall lie down, but he shall not be gathered: he openeth his eyes, and he is not.
20 Terrors take hold on him as waters, a tempest stealeth him away in the night. 21 The east wind carrieth him away, and he departeth: and as a storm hurleth him out of his place.
22 For God shall cast upon him, and not spare: he would fain flee out of his hand.
23 Men shall clap their hands at him, and shall hiss him out of his place.
The above is terrible, but it shows the death of the hypocrite. If this truth were known and taught more, I think people would more consider making their lives right with God.
Verse 8 shows it is speaking of the time of his death. Verse 13, this is their portion with God. This hypocrite, wicked man may have gotten earthly riches, but in the day of his death, it will do him no good. The next verses describe his death: v19. The rich man, Adam, lies down, (means he died), but he is not gathered.
Now we know that all through the OT when a saint of God died, it was said that he was gathered to his people.
So now this shows that this wicked hypocrite was not gathered when he died. So then what happens to them? He opens his eyes, and he is NOT.
Is Not? Enoch WAS NOT, for God took him. So it reveals that this rich man died and is not, in our present world. But the fact that he opens his eyes, proves that he is not just laying in a grave, DEAD, either.
Now we have many teaching soul sleep, but this proves it is simply not true, not even for the wicked. Dead people, in graves, do not open their eyes. We know Luke shows that the rich man died, was buried and in hell lifted up his eyes. Now terrors take hold on this person, a tempest stealeth him away in the night. This is showing his death.
Something called the east wind carried him away and he departed this life. His ‘hell’ is that outer darkness, where is not in a body, but just out in darkness, a place of terror and horror.
A STORM hurled him out of his place, which means this earthly body. He was literally hurled out of his body, out into some unknown terror. God now will not spare this wicked man from the horror which is coming upon him. If this man could, he would flee out of God’s hand.
But watch this next verse, closely:
Verse 23: Men shall clap their hands at him, and shall hiss him out of his place.
Now what men are there claping their hands at this wicked man, when he dies and is hurled out of his body? It could only be one thing,…..the spirits of other wicked men who died before him and are also in this place of terror.
So who are those other wicked men? It is the descendants of Adam and Cain. God told Cain, you will be a vagabond and a fugitive in the earth. Then Cain said, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth.
Look those terms up in Strongs. They show running to and fro. Satan runs to and fro in the earth. He walks up and down in it seeking whom he may devour. Cain was not doing this in his lifetime. This is showing what was his fate, after he is hurled out of his body.
THEN he began his running to and fro and being a fugitive in this earth. Jesus said after an evil spirit is cast out of a person, that spirit walks up and down, seeking someone else to get into. When they can find no one, he returns to his ‘house’ and finds it clean and swept out, but empty, = Did not have the Holy Ghost, so that wicked spirit returns to his ‘house’ and brought with him seven spirits more wicked than himself. So the latter end of that man was worse than his beginning?
Why? Because after he was freed from the wicked spirit of Satan, or devils, he did not receive the Holy Ghost. So when the wicked spirit of Cain/Adam/devils, could not find someone else to enter, they returned to the same person and re-entered him, bringing with them seven more wicked spirits.
Now I say that is what the devils are….the departed spirits of sinful, hypocrite men. God did not create any wicked spirits. They had to come from somewhere. God did not created devils. If Cain was told he would run to and fro or be a fugitive and vagabond in the earth, it had to be after he died, for he built a city in his lifetime. He said this happened after God drove him out from the face of the earth, means his death.
Is there any proof of this? Jude 1:4 -
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
If wicked men crept in unawares, and were ordained to this condemnation of old, = before the flood, who are they? This also shows that Adam and his follows, changed or turned from Grace to wickedness, and they denied Jesus. It proves that Adam’s generation had the full truth of grace and Jesus, yet they refused this.
How did they creep in unawares? I say it is those wicked spirits of the old men after they were hurled out of their body to run to and fro, in dry places, seeking a body to get into. I say it is the devils who inhabit other people’s bodies and this will continue until they last ones are thrown into hell fire.
Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Those everlasting chains under darkness is that realm where they are cast when they are hurled out of their bodies. This will continue until they are thrown into hell fire after the judgment. Until then, they are kept under these chains. I say this chain is the thing of having to keep seeking another human body to inhabit. When they are cast out, or that person dies, then they are hurled out again and again, in dry places, dark places, needing to seek another victim to get into.
I say this is the devils. It is the spirits of wicked men who have been hurled out of their own human bodies at their death.
I say there is enough Scripture here to prove this and I have not seen anyone else bring forth any Scripture to prove otherwise. I say this is why some children have exhibited extraordinary talents at a very young age, = they received the spirit of someone who had this talent in their lifetime. I think it is devil-possession.
By: Jo Smith ~~~ August 26, 2009
The word ‘demons’ is not even in Scripture. God calls those spirits, devils. Some people say they are disembodied spirits. If so they had to have at one time belonged to a body. If they are disembodied, then they had to have a body at some time. God created everything. But we have no record that God created any devil. Why would God create a devil?
Do devils tempt us to do evil? James 1:13-18
13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
So that Scripture makes it very clear that people are tempted by their own lust. So it is the devil? Revelation shows that the devil is the same as the serpent, the dragon and Satan.
So the thing is you have to prove what or who that devil is. In order to make this message a bit shorter, for now, I will just tell you, rather than trying to prove it, for I have many messages already proving that Adam is Satan.
So if Adam is Satan, serpent, dragon, and devil, it is not some angel. Adam was a man. So his spirit, the Adam-spirit, is Satan. Then if a man is tempted by being drawn away of his own lust, then he himself is that devil. It is man’s spirit. But there is more.
It is not necessarily the spirit of the individual. If one is possessed with devils, and they can be cast out, then it is not that person’s own human spirit, but the spirit of someone else. How can this be? Something very few know, but God revealed to me.
Job 27: 7 Let mine enemy be as the wicked, and he that riseth up against me as the unrighteous. 8 For what is the hope of the hypocrite, though he hath gained, when God taketh away his soul?
9 Will God hear his cry when trouble cometh upon him? 10 Will he delight himself in the Almighty? will he always call upon God?
13 This is the portion of a wicked man with God, and the heritage of oppressors, which they shall receive of the Almighty. 14 If his children be multiplied, it is for the sword: and his offspring shall not be satisfied with bread. 15 Those that remain of him shall be buried in death: and his widows shall not weep. 16 Though he heap up silver as the dust, and prepare raiment as the clay;
17 He may prepare it, but the just shall put it on, and the innocent shall divide the silver. 18 He buildeth his house as a moth, and as a booth that the keeper maketh.
19 The rich man shall lie down, but he shall not be gathered: he openeth his eyes, and he is not.
20 Terrors take hold on him as waters, a tempest stealeth him away in the night. 21 The east wind carrieth him away, and he departeth: and as a storm hurleth him out of his place.
22 For God shall cast upon him, and not spare: he would fain flee out of his hand.
23 Men shall clap their hands at him, and shall hiss him out of his place.
The above is terrible, but it shows the death of the hypocrite. If this truth were known and taught more, I think people would more consider making their lives right with God.
Verse 8 shows it is speaking of the time of his death. Verse 13, this is their portion with God. This hypocrite, wicked man may have gotten earthly riches, but in the day of his death, it will do him no good. The next verses describe his death: v19. The rich man, Adam, lies down, (means he died), but he is not gathered.
Now we know that all through the OT when a saint of God died, it was said that he was gathered to his people.
So now this shows that this wicked hypocrite was not gathered when he died. So then what happens to them? He opens his eyes, and he is NOT.
Is Not? Enoch WAS NOT, for God took him. So it reveals that this rich man died and is not, in our present world. But the fact that he opens his eyes, proves that he is not just laying in a grave, DEAD, either.
Now we have many teaching soul sleep, but this proves it is simply not true, not even for the wicked. Dead people, in graves, do not open their eyes. We know Luke shows that the rich man died, was buried and in hell lifted up his eyes. Now terrors take hold on this person, a tempest stealeth him away in the night. This is showing his death.
Something called the east wind carried him away and he departed this life. His ‘hell’ is that outer darkness, where is not in a body, but just out in darkness, a place of terror and horror.
A STORM hurled him out of his place, which means this earthly body. He was literally hurled out of his body, out into some unknown terror. God now will not spare this wicked man from the horror which is coming upon him. If this man could, he would flee out of God’s hand.
But watch this next verse, closely:
Verse 23: Men shall clap their hands at him, and shall hiss him out of his place.
Now what men are there claping their hands at this wicked man, when he dies and is hurled out of his body? It could only be one thing,…..the spirits of other wicked men who died before him and are also in this place of terror.
So who are those other wicked men? It is the descendants of Adam and Cain. God told Cain, you will be a vagabond and a fugitive in the earth. Then Cain said, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth.
Look those terms up in Strongs. They show running to and fro. Satan runs to and fro in the earth. He walks up and down in it seeking whom he may devour. Cain was not doing this in his lifetime. This is showing what was his fate, after he is hurled out of his body.
THEN he began his running to and fro and being a fugitive in this earth. Jesus said after an evil spirit is cast out of a person, that spirit walks up and down, seeking someone else to get into. When they can find no one, he returns to his ‘house’ and finds it clean and swept out, but empty, = Did not have the Holy Ghost, so that wicked spirit returns to his ‘house’ and brought with him seven spirits more wicked than himself. So the latter end of that man was worse than his beginning?
Why? Because after he was freed from the wicked spirit of Satan, or devils, he did not receive the Holy Ghost. So when the wicked spirit of Cain/Adam/devils, could not find someone else to enter, they returned to the same person and re-entered him, bringing with them seven more wicked spirits.
Now I say that is what the devils are….the departed spirits of sinful, hypocrite men. God did not create any wicked spirits. They had to come from somewhere. God did not created devils. If Cain was told he would run to and fro or be a fugitive and vagabond in the earth, it had to be after he died, for he built a city in his lifetime. He said this happened after God drove him out from the face of the earth, means his death.
Is there any proof of this? Jude 1:4 -
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
If wicked men crept in unawares, and were ordained to this condemnation of old, = before the flood, who are they? This also shows that Adam and his follows, changed or turned from Grace to wickedness, and they denied Jesus. It proves that Adam’s generation had the full truth of grace and Jesus, yet they refused this.
How did they creep in unawares? I say it is those wicked spirits of the old men after they were hurled out of their body to run to and fro, in dry places, seeking a body to get into. I say it is the devils who inhabit other people’s bodies and this will continue until they last ones are thrown into hell fire.
Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Those everlasting chains under darkness is that realm where they are cast when they are hurled out of their bodies. This will continue until they are thrown into hell fire after the judgment. Until then, they are kept under these chains. I say this chain is the thing of having to keep seeking another human body to inhabit. When they are cast out, or that person dies, then they are hurled out again and again, in dry places, dark places, needing to seek another victim to get into.
I say this is the devils. It is the spirits of wicked men who have been hurled out of their own human bodies at their death.
I say there is enough Scripture here to prove this and I have not seen anyone else bring forth any Scripture to prove otherwise. I say this is why some children have exhibited extraordinary talents at a very young age, = they received the spirit of someone who had this talent in their lifetime. I think it is devil-possession.
By: Jo Smith ~~~ August 26, 2009