Post by Jo Smith on Nov 24, 2015 22:46:27 GMT -5
Burying Gog…part one
This message is on Ezekiel 38 and 39. I will be doing more from chapter 39, but will begin here in 38. In order to understand who Gog is, first read the last message, on chapter 37, the valley of dry bones. Without first understanding who or what those dry bones are, you will not be able to see who Gog is.
This revelation is very precious to me, since I have puzzled over these chapters for many, many years and tried to see what it is about. Then one day, God just opened it up to me. How I love it when my God teaches me. He it is that has taught me everything I know about him and his word.
As I have stated in other messages, nothing in scripture is as it appears to our natural minds. The natural mind cannot receive the things of the Spirit of God. So it takes an anointing from God to reveal the truth of his word to anyone. And until He does reveal it, you will never see its truth, for you will accept satan’s mangled words, which put a natural interpretation to all scripture, thus deceiving the whole world.
Ezekiel 38King James Version (KJV)
38 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
You must learn that words such as day, hour, week, month, year, ten, twelve, thousand, two all have the very same spiritual meaning, and this is not man’s timing or numbers.
Remember that the apostles said, we are the people upon whom the ends of the world are come. And they also call their time, the last time, or latter years. So in order to get the truth of these chapters in Eze. you must realize that the latter time, began with the resurrection of Jesus.
I think when I get into chapter 39, it will be clearer and easier to see what this is about. So I will not say much until I get to that chapter. If I do, I may have to make this two messages, or it will be very long.
God said he is against Gog. God also said he would bring in the Gentiles and all the world into one new man, the Christians, or saved, cleansed people of Jesus Christ.
So this Gog is first-man Adam, or our sinful selves, which are dead; dead in trespasses and sins. This is also represented by LAW. All of the OT covenant of law, and sin, Adam, Satan are all tied together. God was against all of this. So all of this is Gog.
The prince is of course, the spirit of Adam, or satan. There is only one way to get free of this evil.
Look at verse 4: Who is it that God turns back? It is the OT law group of rebels. So this is Gog. But then, after he turns them back, he put hooks into their jaws and bring the forth again. He sent his disciples out as FISHERMEN of men. The put the hooks into their jaws and brought them to shore or to Jesus.
Being clothed with all sorts of armour shows that these people come from all people’s of this world, as Jesus had said he would bring them all into one body.
Coming from the other quarters shows them coming out from under LAW. North and South, in scripture, show Law. East and West show Grace. Perhaps not every time, but in many cases this is the answer. So all those who were deceived by Law are now being brought forth into grace and truth by this great army of the Lord.
See that these people came out of all nations and were now dwelling safely because Christ has given them his rest. But then an evil spirit of flesh comes up against these people to take them away. We see fulfilled as the persecution comes up so strong against those new Christians.
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10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?
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Remember, Gog is unsaved people. So those who have not turned to Jesus now come against those who have, to take away what they have gotten from the Lord. Cattle, silver and gold all represent the great things of God, and the people of God. So these wicked ones took away the knowledge of the Holy Ghost, the gifts of the Spirit, the truth of the Word of God and drug back many believers into the law system and thus robbed God of these children. Read Joel 3 and you will see this same thing. It is talking about the very same thing. God tells them that they stole his gold and silver and took his children, so he is going to take theirs from them. And so it is. Each time someone leaves that life of sin, and becomes baptized for the remissions of sins and is filled with the Holy Ghost, God is taking back some of satan’s people in recompense to him for stealing the children of God.
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5 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face.
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This is the northern army which God sent against his people, Joel 3. See they had to be tested. The law keepers took much of the early church back under that deception, away from Grace. But see, the part of Gog that had come into Christ’s body, now goes against them as a mighty army, which turned the world upside down. It was army against army. When Gog comes against that Israel of God, (that true Church) God became furious.
Jesus was ‘first-man Adam’ before his resurrection. Jesus is the one God was sanctified in. The lie that he was God has blinded people to this. But Jesus was just as human as we are. So that is Gog. This is why he had to die, go into hell, and then be resurrected into glorification. This is the one God said he sent against Israel. See, Jesus came against everything that OT group taught, did and lived. He taught them law is wrong and taking money into worship is wrong. etc.
Now this may seem wrong, but the very next verse will prove this interpretation:
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.
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V19,,, ===== the great shaking is speaking of the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
V20… this is speaking of the casting away of the OT, 11Chr. 3. Those mountains and walls falling is the falling of that old covenant.
V21, the sword that came against him is the preaching of the apostles. They went after everyone they could get.
V22.. pleading against him with blood, is the preaching of the blood of Jesus as our only atonement. The rain, hailstones and fire is the WORDS OF THE APOSTLES, upsetting their OT way of life.
V23… this grace teaching caused God to be known to MANY NATIONS, NOT JUST ISRAEL.
I will post this part and do chapter 39 as another part.
By: Jo Smith……November 24, 2015
This message is on Ezekiel 38 and 39. I will be doing more from chapter 39, but will begin here in 38. In order to understand who Gog is, first read the last message, on chapter 37, the valley of dry bones. Without first understanding who or what those dry bones are, you will not be able to see who Gog is.
This revelation is very precious to me, since I have puzzled over these chapters for many, many years and tried to see what it is about. Then one day, God just opened it up to me. How I love it when my God teaches me. He it is that has taught me everything I know about him and his word.
As I have stated in other messages, nothing in scripture is as it appears to our natural minds. The natural mind cannot receive the things of the Spirit of God. So it takes an anointing from God to reveal the truth of his word to anyone. And until He does reveal it, you will never see its truth, for you will accept satan’s mangled words, which put a natural interpretation to all scripture, thus deceiving the whole world.
Ezekiel 38King James Version (KJV)
38 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
You must learn that words such as day, hour, week, month, year, ten, twelve, thousand, two all have the very same spiritual meaning, and this is not man’s timing or numbers.
Remember that the apostles said, we are the people upon whom the ends of the world are come. And they also call their time, the last time, or latter years. So in order to get the truth of these chapters in Eze. you must realize that the latter time, began with the resurrection of Jesus.
I think when I get into chapter 39, it will be clearer and easier to see what this is about. So I will not say much until I get to that chapter. If I do, I may have to make this two messages, or it will be very long.
God said he is against Gog. God also said he would bring in the Gentiles and all the world into one new man, the Christians, or saved, cleansed people of Jesus Christ.
So this Gog is first-man Adam, or our sinful selves, which are dead; dead in trespasses and sins. This is also represented by LAW. All of the OT covenant of law, and sin, Adam, Satan are all tied together. God was against all of this. So all of this is Gog.
The prince is of course, the spirit of Adam, or satan. There is only one way to get free of this evil.
Look at verse 4: Who is it that God turns back? It is the OT law group of rebels. So this is Gog. But then, after he turns them back, he put hooks into their jaws and bring the forth again. He sent his disciples out as FISHERMEN of men. The put the hooks into their jaws and brought them to shore or to Jesus.
Being clothed with all sorts of armour shows that these people come from all people’s of this world, as Jesus had said he would bring them all into one body.
Coming from the other quarters shows them coming out from under LAW. North and South, in scripture, show Law. East and West show Grace. Perhaps not every time, but in many cases this is the answer. So all those who were deceived by Law are now being brought forth into grace and truth by this great army of the Lord.
See that these people came out of all nations and were now dwelling safely because Christ has given them his rest. But then an evil spirit of flesh comes up against these people to take them away. We see fulfilled as the persecution comes up so strong against those new Christians.
~~~~~~~~~~~
10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?
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Remember, Gog is unsaved people. So those who have not turned to Jesus now come against those who have, to take away what they have gotten from the Lord. Cattle, silver and gold all represent the great things of God, and the people of God. So these wicked ones took away the knowledge of the Holy Ghost, the gifts of the Spirit, the truth of the Word of God and drug back many believers into the law system and thus robbed God of these children. Read Joel 3 and you will see this same thing. It is talking about the very same thing. God tells them that they stole his gold and silver and took his children, so he is going to take theirs from them. And so it is. Each time someone leaves that life of sin, and becomes baptized for the remissions of sins and is filled with the Holy Ghost, God is taking back some of satan’s people in recompense to him for stealing the children of God.
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5 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face.
````````
This is the northern army which God sent against his people, Joel 3. See they had to be tested. The law keepers took much of the early church back under that deception, away from Grace. But see, the part of Gog that had come into Christ’s body, now goes against them as a mighty army, which turned the world upside down. It was army against army. When Gog comes against that Israel of God, (that true Church) God became furious.
Jesus was ‘first-man Adam’ before his resurrection. Jesus is the one God was sanctified in. The lie that he was God has blinded people to this. But Jesus was just as human as we are. So that is Gog. This is why he had to die, go into hell, and then be resurrected into glorification. This is the one God said he sent against Israel. See, Jesus came against everything that OT group taught, did and lived. He taught them law is wrong and taking money into worship is wrong. etc.
Now this may seem wrong, but the very next verse will prove this interpretation:
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.
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V19,,, ===== the great shaking is speaking of the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
V20… this is speaking of the casting away of the OT, 11Chr. 3. Those mountains and walls falling is the falling of that old covenant.
V21, the sword that came against him is the preaching of the apostles. They went after everyone they could get.
V22.. pleading against him with blood, is the preaching of the blood of Jesus as our only atonement. The rain, hailstones and fire is the WORDS OF THE APOSTLES, upsetting their OT way of life.
V23… this grace teaching caused God to be known to MANY NATIONS, NOT JUST ISRAEL.
I will post this part and do chapter 39 as another part.
By: Jo Smith……November 24, 2015