Post by Jo Smith on Jan 29, 2016 18:13:36 GMT -5
Identity of the true Jesus, part two
Amos 3:7 ..Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
God has made known everything of his Plans to mankind, by revealing it to his prophets. Thus, everything of the working of God with earth, or man, has been prophesied beforehand by the OT Prophets. So, if a doctrine is not in the OT Prophecy it is false.
Jesus was the beginning of fulfilling all those prophecies. Mat one states that the birth of Jesus was done, so the prophecy in Isa 9:6 could then be fulfilled.
They went down into Egypt, so another prophecy could be fulfilled. His entire life he was fulfilling the prophecies written in the OT Prophets. God would do nothing that He had not already told them about, beforehand.
Psalm 22 clearly shows the crucifixion of Jesus. Isa 53 speaks of the same thing. So it was laid out by prophecy.
But, the big question of their day, and the one plaguing the world today…. just who was Jesus? Jesus himself asked his disciples, who do men say that I am. He knew it was a question to them. Some said Elias; others said it was John risen from the dead. Some others had gotten it right…they said, He is THAT PROPHET.
So now, what Prophet were they speaking of? The answer is in Deut 18. 17 And the Lord said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
God told Moses, I will raise them up a PROPHET… from among their BRETHREN, like unto you, Moses.
Now this solidly proves that God has promised the nation of Israel a prophet, which will come from among their own selves and be like Moses. But that is not all.
God said, I will put MY WORDS in his mouth.
He shall SPEAK all that I command him.
And whoever does not hearken unto MY WORDS, which this prophet shall SPEAK in my name, I will require it of him.
Strong words. a great promise. All Israel waited and looked for this prophet to arrive. They had gone to John and asked John if he were THAT prophet. John had said, NO.
I have had a person arguing with me for weeks that John was that prophet, in spite of the fact that he said, NO.
They have told me there is no way Jesus could be that prophet, for Jesus was never identified as a prophet. See, this is the error people get into when they do not study the Word of God and go by what the Word says. Do not add to his words: do not take away from his words.
So the first thing I will prove in this message is….was Jesus truly THAT PROPHET.
Let’s ask Peter: Acts 3: 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
Peter clearly identifies Jesus as being THAT PROPHET spoken of by Moses.
Stephen also spoke of this, just before they stoned him to death. They had asked him, in Acts 6, if the things they had heard about Jesus was true that he was going to destroy the temple and the things of Moses. Here is part of his answer:
37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
Stephen is clearly showing that Moses was speaking about Jesus. They ended up killing him over this conversation.
Did the people of Jesus’ day think of him as a prophet? There is many instances that prove they did.
John 9: 17 They say unto the blind man again, What sayest thou of him, that he hath opened thine eyes? He said, He is a prophet.
This is the blind man that Jesus had healed. He bore witness that Jesus was a PROPHET. They knew the prophecy of a coming PROPHET. They never heard of a coming God robbed in human flesh, as the church teaches.
They never heard of a god incarnate. They never heard of a god-man. These things had not been prophesied, so God never intended to do such.
The woman at the well…John 4: 19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
Then she said, 25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
Jesus confessed to being the Messias; he did not deny being a prophet. He had told her, God is a spirit. So she did not even consider that this MAN speaking to her was God.
John 7: 40 Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.
41 Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee?
42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
Now here we have the words of people who knew the prophecies of Jesus. They said of a TRUTH, this is THE PROPHET. This the prophet they were looking for; the one Moses had told them they and better listen to. Then they bear out another truth, from Scripture….Christ comes of the SEED OF DAVID.
These people knew the word; the prophecies. This is what they knew God had prophesied to come. They had never heard of a man, who came from the seed of God and was therefore a god-man. Not one soul in Scripture bore witness to such a thing as this.
Here is another proof and witness that the people who knew the prophecies of the Word of God, were looking for that prophet which Moses had told them was to come.
John 6: 14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
Those people who saw the miracle of Jesus feeding the multitude, did not think this proved him to be a god. They said, of a TRUTH this is THAT PROPHET THAT SHOULD COME INTO THE WORLD. So now I have given the needed three witnesses proving, without a doubt, that Jesus was the PROPHET which Moses prophesied of. So, how do people get the wild idea that Jesus was never identified as a prophet? and especially the one that Moses told them they must hear, because God would PUT HIS WORDS INTO THE MOUTH OF THIS PROPHET, AND THIS PROPHET WOULD …SPEAK…THE WORDS OF GOD.
People, this is exactly why the world, the hoards of people who fill the churches, do not want to acknowledge that Jesus is THAT PROPHET….THIS PROVES HE WAS NOT THE WORD OF GOD, NOR WAS HE GOD.
God FED HIS WORD TO THIS PROPHET. It is the same one in Rev 10, who went unto the angel, took the BOOK, (God’s word) and ATE IT.
See, this PROVES that Jesus was not God, was not God’s word, BUT FED ON THE WORD OR SPIRITUAL FLESH OF GOD.
Luke 7: 16 And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.
After Jesus raised the dead son to life, the people said, A great PROPHET is risen up among us. They did not think Jesus was God, just because he raised this dead man. But they knew it was the work of God. They called Jesus a great PROPHET.
Luke 24… after Jesus was risen from the dead and talked with the men on the road to Emmaus, and asked them why they were so sad, they said this:
19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
These men had walked with Jesus before his death. They knew he was a PROPHET, who worked BEFORE GOD AND ALL THE PEOPLE. They never once said, Jesus was God. No one in Scripture ever said that, not even Jesus.
The pharisees wanted to take Jesus for he spake against them. But : Mat 21:46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.
The MULTITUDE took Jesus for a PROPHET. Wonder why? They knew the OT prophecies. They never, not one time, no matter how many miracles they saw him do, never did they consider him to be a god, or god robed in flesh, or God in the flesh, or any such foolish doctrine. it is not once named. But the hirelings of later years, drug up this false doctrine, and the multitude of blind people accepted it without question; never looking into the Word of God to see it if is true. God will judge you all guilty who do not search his Word for his Truth.
Was Jesus conceived from God-seed, or seed of man?
False doctrine claims that God spoke his Word into the womb of Mary and she conceived Jesus this way. No scripture says this. It comes from the book of lies.
Here is what Scripture said: Acts 13: 23.. Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
Now this clearly said that Jesus came from a MAN’S SEED.
Romans 1: 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
This said Jesus was made of the SEED OF DAVID, according to the flesh. [two witnesses]
2Tim 2:8… Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
Now this gives us three witnesses that Jesus came from the SEED OF DAVID.
Heb 2:16…For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Another witness.
John 7: 42..Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
Acts 2: 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
[Peter preaching]
Peter clearly shows here that Christ came from the fruit of the LOINS of David. This had to have passed from a son of David; not Mary. Women could not be spoken of this way.
John 1: 45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
John 6: 42 42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
Now there is two scripture witnesses saying that Jesus was the SON OF JOSEPH. WHY DOES NO ONE BELIEVE THIS WORD? [And if you say, step son or adopted son, are you not adding to God’s word to back up a man-made lie? Of course you are…eating from the book of lies; whore’s flesh].
Was this prophesied? Yes!
Isaiah 11: 1…And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
…a ‘rod’ out of the STEM of Jesse, (father of David).
So is it speaking of Mary? Is the woman called the STEM of a man? I think not.
Also, there is no proof that she is from the family of David, but is proven to be of the family of Aaron.
Of the many lies about how Mary conceived Jesus, I find not one scripture for the lie. The word did not enter her womb. God did not enter her womb. God was not conceived in her womb. A part human/part god person was not conceived in her. Not one single person is all of God’s word said they believe these lies. it is not mentioned.
When Jesus asked Peter, whom do you say that I am, Peter did not say, you are god. He said you are the Christ, the son of the living God. This Christ speaks of the resurrection. it is not Mary’s baby or the man dying on the cross. The entire church world has been deceived and is in lies till this very day and cannot accept one word of Truth.
Outside their prison cell, they see nothing but Holiness, sanctification, Holy living, no idols, no holidays, no adulteries, no stealing, no one ruling over another; no one being paid to preach or teach. etc.
So, these prisoners love it right where they are and will not leave their prison cell, even though Jesus has unlocked the door for them. They flat refuse to go outside for they love their lies and idols more than truth. They would rather eat the flesh of the whore than to have to eat the flesh of Jesus. They love the book of lies more than the Book of truth.
Jesus said, In the volume of the Book, it is written of ME…so now, go find and show me, from this volume, one word stating that this Jesus is God in flesh; God incarnate; conceived in the womb by God-seed; god robed in human flesh; or any of the other lies of their book of lies. Show me where it is written in the volume of the right Book. Cannot be done.
By: Jo Smith….. Jan 29, 2016
Amos 3:7 ..Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
God has made known everything of his Plans to mankind, by revealing it to his prophets. Thus, everything of the working of God with earth, or man, has been prophesied beforehand by the OT Prophets. So, if a doctrine is not in the OT Prophecy it is false.
Jesus was the beginning of fulfilling all those prophecies. Mat one states that the birth of Jesus was done, so the prophecy in Isa 9:6 could then be fulfilled.
They went down into Egypt, so another prophecy could be fulfilled. His entire life he was fulfilling the prophecies written in the OT Prophets. God would do nothing that He had not already told them about, beforehand.
Psalm 22 clearly shows the crucifixion of Jesus. Isa 53 speaks of the same thing. So it was laid out by prophecy.
But, the big question of their day, and the one plaguing the world today…. just who was Jesus? Jesus himself asked his disciples, who do men say that I am. He knew it was a question to them. Some said Elias; others said it was John risen from the dead. Some others had gotten it right…they said, He is THAT PROPHET.
So now, what Prophet were they speaking of? The answer is in Deut 18. 17 And the Lord said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
God told Moses, I will raise them up a PROPHET… from among their BRETHREN, like unto you, Moses.
Now this solidly proves that God has promised the nation of Israel a prophet, which will come from among their own selves and be like Moses. But that is not all.
God said, I will put MY WORDS in his mouth.
He shall SPEAK all that I command him.
And whoever does not hearken unto MY WORDS, which this prophet shall SPEAK in my name, I will require it of him.
Strong words. a great promise. All Israel waited and looked for this prophet to arrive. They had gone to John and asked John if he were THAT prophet. John had said, NO.
I have had a person arguing with me for weeks that John was that prophet, in spite of the fact that he said, NO.
They have told me there is no way Jesus could be that prophet, for Jesus was never identified as a prophet. See, this is the error people get into when they do not study the Word of God and go by what the Word says. Do not add to his words: do not take away from his words.
So the first thing I will prove in this message is….was Jesus truly THAT PROPHET.
Let’s ask Peter: Acts 3: 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
Peter clearly identifies Jesus as being THAT PROPHET spoken of by Moses.
Stephen also spoke of this, just before they stoned him to death. They had asked him, in Acts 6, if the things they had heard about Jesus was true that he was going to destroy the temple and the things of Moses. Here is part of his answer:
37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
Stephen is clearly showing that Moses was speaking about Jesus. They ended up killing him over this conversation.
Did the people of Jesus’ day think of him as a prophet? There is many instances that prove they did.
John 9: 17 They say unto the blind man again, What sayest thou of him, that he hath opened thine eyes? He said, He is a prophet.
This is the blind man that Jesus had healed. He bore witness that Jesus was a PROPHET. They knew the prophecy of a coming PROPHET. They never heard of a coming God robbed in human flesh, as the church teaches.
They never heard of a god incarnate. They never heard of a god-man. These things had not been prophesied, so God never intended to do such.
The woman at the well…John 4: 19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
Then she said, 25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
Jesus confessed to being the Messias; he did not deny being a prophet. He had told her, God is a spirit. So she did not even consider that this MAN speaking to her was God.
John 7: 40 Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.
41 Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee?
42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
Now here we have the words of people who knew the prophecies of Jesus. They said of a TRUTH, this is THE PROPHET. This the prophet they were looking for; the one Moses had told them they and better listen to. Then they bear out another truth, from Scripture….Christ comes of the SEED OF DAVID.
These people knew the word; the prophecies. This is what they knew God had prophesied to come. They had never heard of a man, who came from the seed of God and was therefore a god-man. Not one soul in Scripture bore witness to such a thing as this.
Here is another proof and witness that the people who knew the prophecies of the Word of God, were looking for that prophet which Moses had told them was to come.
John 6: 14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
Those people who saw the miracle of Jesus feeding the multitude, did not think this proved him to be a god. They said, of a TRUTH this is THAT PROPHET THAT SHOULD COME INTO THE WORLD. So now I have given the needed three witnesses proving, without a doubt, that Jesus was the PROPHET which Moses prophesied of. So, how do people get the wild idea that Jesus was never identified as a prophet? and especially the one that Moses told them they must hear, because God would PUT HIS WORDS INTO THE MOUTH OF THIS PROPHET, AND THIS PROPHET WOULD …SPEAK…THE WORDS OF GOD.
People, this is exactly why the world, the hoards of people who fill the churches, do not want to acknowledge that Jesus is THAT PROPHET….THIS PROVES HE WAS NOT THE WORD OF GOD, NOR WAS HE GOD.
God FED HIS WORD TO THIS PROPHET. It is the same one in Rev 10, who went unto the angel, took the BOOK, (God’s word) and ATE IT.
See, this PROVES that Jesus was not God, was not God’s word, BUT FED ON THE WORD OR SPIRITUAL FLESH OF GOD.
Luke 7: 16 And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.
After Jesus raised the dead son to life, the people said, A great PROPHET is risen up among us. They did not think Jesus was God, just because he raised this dead man. But they knew it was the work of God. They called Jesus a great PROPHET.
Luke 24… after Jesus was risen from the dead and talked with the men on the road to Emmaus, and asked them why they were so sad, they said this:
19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
These men had walked with Jesus before his death. They knew he was a PROPHET, who worked BEFORE GOD AND ALL THE PEOPLE. They never once said, Jesus was God. No one in Scripture ever said that, not even Jesus.
The pharisees wanted to take Jesus for he spake against them. But : Mat 21:46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.
The MULTITUDE took Jesus for a PROPHET. Wonder why? They knew the OT prophecies. They never, not one time, no matter how many miracles they saw him do, never did they consider him to be a god, or god robed in flesh, or God in the flesh, or any such foolish doctrine. it is not once named. But the hirelings of later years, drug up this false doctrine, and the multitude of blind people accepted it without question; never looking into the Word of God to see it if is true. God will judge you all guilty who do not search his Word for his Truth.
Was Jesus conceived from God-seed, or seed of man?
False doctrine claims that God spoke his Word into the womb of Mary and she conceived Jesus this way. No scripture says this. It comes from the book of lies.
Here is what Scripture said: Acts 13: 23.. Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
Now this clearly said that Jesus came from a MAN’S SEED.
Romans 1: 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
This said Jesus was made of the SEED OF DAVID, according to the flesh. [two witnesses]
2Tim 2:8… Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
Now this gives us three witnesses that Jesus came from the SEED OF DAVID.
Heb 2:16…For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Another witness.
John 7: 42..Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
Acts 2: 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
[Peter preaching]
Peter clearly shows here that Christ came from the fruit of the LOINS of David. This had to have passed from a son of David; not Mary. Women could not be spoken of this way.
John 1: 45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
John 6: 42 42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
Now there is two scripture witnesses saying that Jesus was the SON OF JOSEPH. WHY DOES NO ONE BELIEVE THIS WORD? [And if you say, step son or adopted son, are you not adding to God’s word to back up a man-made lie? Of course you are…eating from the book of lies; whore’s flesh].
Was this prophesied? Yes!
Isaiah 11: 1…And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
…a ‘rod’ out of the STEM of Jesse, (father of David).
So is it speaking of Mary? Is the woman called the STEM of a man? I think not.
Also, there is no proof that she is from the family of David, but is proven to be of the family of Aaron.
Of the many lies about how Mary conceived Jesus, I find not one scripture for the lie. The word did not enter her womb. God did not enter her womb. God was not conceived in her womb. A part human/part god person was not conceived in her. Not one single person is all of God’s word said they believe these lies. it is not mentioned.
When Jesus asked Peter, whom do you say that I am, Peter did not say, you are god. He said you are the Christ, the son of the living God. This Christ speaks of the resurrection. it is not Mary’s baby or the man dying on the cross. The entire church world has been deceived and is in lies till this very day and cannot accept one word of Truth.
Outside their prison cell, they see nothing but Holiness, sanctification, Holy living, no idols, no holidays, no adulteries, no stealing, no one ruling over another; no one being paid to preach or teach. etc.
So, these prisoners love it right where they are and will not leave their prison cell, even though Jesus has unlocked the door for them. They flat refuse to go outside for they love their lies and idols more than truth. They would rather eat the flesh of the whore than to have to eat the flesh of Jesus. They love the book of lies more than the Book of truth.
Jesus said, In the volume of the Book, it is written of ME…so now, go find and show me, from this volume, one word stating that this Jesus is God in flesh; God incarnate; conceived in the womb by God-seed; god robed in human flesh; or any of the other lies of their book of lies. Show me where it is written in the volume of the right Book. Cannot be done.
By: Jo Smith….. Jan 29, 2016