Post by Jo Smith on Aug 31, 2017 14:01:34 GMT -5
The VALLEY….. by Jo Smith….August 31, 2017
In my message of Eze 39, I explained that Gog is representing sinners, or the enemies of our soul. We, the true people of God, the only true Jew or Israel, are being fought by this gog, or our sinful, outer man. This is what we must destroy so the inner man, the Christ can live.
God revealed to me that the burying of Gog is fulfilled by the NT baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. This is the cleansing that God made possible for us. In Romans 6 and Col 2, we are told that in baptism we are buried with Christ, buried into his DEATH and then raised in the likeness of his resurrection; to new life.
This is what God was speaking of in the burying of Gog. It truly means putting to death our old sinful man and being raised to new life in Christ Jesus. We BURY that old Gog or sinful man.
I copied this from the Strongs, about Hamongog: AV - Hamongog 2; 2
Hamon-gog = "multitude of Gog"
1) the name to be given to a valley of graves; ravine or glen, now
known as 'the ravine of the passengers', located on the east side
of the Dead Sea
The name of the valley of graves….this is great. So this ‘valley’ is the same thing as the valley of decision or the place where we drop our old sinful self and renew it in Christ. This then would be the WATERY GRAVE.The place we are baptized into the death of Jesus or in the name of Jesus Christ to get our sins remitted.
Eze 39: 15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land. [Remember, those dry bones? they are the dead, carnal folks, still held under the ‘FACE’ of the earth, or law. We must get those dry bones, wet, by burying them in the name of Jesus Christ.]
In order to understand this message and meaning of VALLEY, you need to read my message on the Valley of dry bones and also Burying Gog.
It is the revelation God gave me on those two messages that now opened up the scriptural meaning of VALLEY. I already knew that the Valley of Decision or valley of Megiddon, all means the place of repentance to come to Christ. Now I see that all of these ‘valleys’ mean the same thing.
Romans 6 and Colossians 2 show that we are buried in death or into the death of Jesus, by water baptism in his Name. This is our cleansing. So, the valley where they ‘bury’ those dry ‘bones’ of repenting sinners, is this baptism.
So it is easy to see that none of the carnal understanding of the word of God is correct. It does not mean what people think. They have missed it completely.
Psalm 23: 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
See the above; no one ever understood the true meaning….he is saying when I go through that valley or repenting and being baptized into the body of Christ, no evil will take me; for then God feeds me his Word in the presence of mine enemies…( those who hate truth or church babies). His anointing my head with OIL, means receiving the Holy Ghost and being full.
That valley of decision is of course, your repenting time...so now...Zechariah 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.>>>>this shows the time of turning from law, OT, to Grace, NT...that valley of dying to self, cleansing baptism,,rising to a higher mountain than OT...Mt Zion.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
East to West shows Grace coming in…the split mountain shows the Law mountain moving away and letting a great valley come in between. This VALLEY is the salvation found in Acts 2….repenting,,,(mourning for sins)…being cleansed from sin by Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the REMISSION of sins….then being filled with the Holy Ghost….now you are come to Mountain Zion instead of OT law.
This shows the turning from OT law mountain, going through valley of shadow of death,..not death to body, but to sin, old man....then rising up on Mt Zion, or Grace mountain. glorious revelation.
Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.>>>this is the OT folks fleeing from Law to Grace...to the VALLEY caused when the two mountains split...wow. what a revelation.....Thank you Lord Jesus.
Luke 3:5 Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth;>>>> see, this is speaking of everyone who enters this VALLEY of repentance...baptism....shall be FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST....causing them to see STRAIGHT.....no longer the rough ways of the law.
Also, another witness… Colossians 2:
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
~~~~~
Now those verses show us that this BURYING is SPIRITUAL and not NATURAL. It is not a bunch of folks picking up and burying a bunch of dead, rotting corpses.
It is those same people, who were once lost, but now found, lost but now brought to Christ, Gog, going into that water, obeying Acts 2:38, as the one and only way of remitting sins, or CLEANSING THE LAND.
They are baptized into DEATH, buried with Jesus, through Baptism; in the likeness of his death and burial, to be raised in the likeness of his resurrection…. living a holy life, free of sin. For seven church times, these people of Gog or first-man Adam, sinful humans, go into that watery GRAVE TO BE CLEANSED or have their sins remitted.
The WEAPONS of our warfare are not natural, but spiritual. So we must burn all those carnal weapons, and pick up the shields of faith, the sword of the word of God, and go out to battle all these LIES OF MAN or Gog.
That is what I am attempting to do today, writing this God-given revelation.
Notice that verse 14 in Col 2, shows that in this forgiveness of our sins, God blots out the HANDWRITING OF ORDINANCES, that was against us. This proves it is speaking of delivering us from that old LAW SYSTEM, written by God’s hand, on stone.
Verse 11, proves that this is spiritual CIRCUMCISION AND NOT THE NATURAL CIRCUMCISION OF THAT OLD LAW SYSTEM, IN the human flesh. THIS IS SPIRITUAL. It is cutting away our sins from us. Yet most everyone today says that baptism has nothing to do with our salvation and that we can never be free from our sins. See that both of these false teachings denies the people THIS CLEANSING THAT BEING BURIED WITH CHRIST IN BAPTISM GIVES TO US.
See that we crucified our old man, (Gog), and were thus delivered from our sin. This translated us from the kingdom of Satan, (Gog), into the kingdom of Christ, (Israel)
Here is another great ‘valley’ one must pass through to find true salvation: Psalm 84:6
Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools.
This VALLEY of Baca, means extreme weeping, which shows the true Godly sorrow that leads to repentance.
See how the real beauty of necessity of the steps to salvation have been completely missed due to false teachings.
Isaiah 40:4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
We see here that all who go into this VALLEY of being cleansed shall be exalted and all the crooked ideas straightened out or made clear.
This one is great: Isaiah 63:14
As a beast goeth down into the valley, the Spirit of the Lord caused him to rest: so didst thou lead thy people, to make thyself a glorious name.
Before salvation, we are considered to be beast….but when we go down into that valley, or watery grave, Jesus gives us Rest, thus making a glorious name for himself. Such glory!
Here is another ‘valley’, but means the same thing: Isaiah 65:10
And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me.
The herds is God’s sheep finding the shepherd.
There is much more could be said on this subject, but I think this is sufficient. May it be a blessing.
Amen.
In my message of Eze 39, I explained that Gog is representing sinners, or the enemies of our soul. We, the true people of God, the only true Jew or Israel, are being fought by this gog, or our sinful, outer man. This is what we must destroy so the inner man, the Christ can live.
God revealed to me that the burying of Gog is fulfilled by the NT baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. This is the cleansing that God made possible for us. In Romans 6 and Col 2, we are told that in baptism we are buried with Christ, buried into his DEATH and then raised in the likeness of his resurrection; to new life.
This is what God was speaking of in the burying of Gog. It truly means putting to death our old sinful man and being raised to new life in Christ Jesus. We BURY that old Gog or sinful man.
I copied this from the Strongs, about Hamongog: AV - Hamongog 2; 2
Hamon-gog = "multitude of Gog"
1) the name to be given to a valley of graves; ravine or glen, now
known as 'the ravine of the passengers', located on the east side
of the Dead Sea
The name of the valley of graves….this is great. So this ‘valley’ is the same thing as the valley of decision or the place where we drop our old sinful self and renew it in Christ. This then would be the WATERY GRAVE.The place we are baptized into the death of Jesus or in the name of Jesus Christ to get our sins remitted.
Eze 39: 15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land. [Remember, those dry bones? they are the dead, carnal folks, still held under the ‘FACE’ of the earth, or law. We must get those dry bones, wet, by burying them in the name of Jesus Christ.]
In order to understand this message and meaning of VALLEY, you need to read my message on the Valley of dry bones and also Burying Gog.
It is the revelation God gave me on those two messages that now opened up the scriptural meaning of VALLEY. I already knew that the Valley of Decision or valley of Megiddon, all means the place of repentance to come to Christ. Now I see that all of these ‘valleys’ mean the same thing.
Romans 6 and Colossians 2 show that we are buried in death or into the death of Jesus, by water baptism in his Name. This is our cleansing. So, the valley where they ‘bury’ those dry ‘bones’ of repenting sinners, is this baptism.
So it is easy to see that none of the carnal understanding of the word of God is correct. It does not mean what people think. They have missed it completely.
Psalm 23: 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
See the above; no one ever understood the true meaning….he is saying when I go through that valley or repenting and being baptized into the body of Christ, no evil will take me; for then God feeds me his Word in the presence of mine enemies…( those who hate truth or church babies). His anointing my head with OIL, means receiving the Holy Ghost and being full.
That valley of decision is of course, your repenting time...so now...Zechariah 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.>>>>this shows the time of turning from law, OT, to Grace, NT...that valley of dying to self, cleansing baptism,,rising to a higher mountain than OT...Mt Zion.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
East to West shows Grace coming in…the split mountain shows the Law mountain moving away and letting a great valley come in between. This VALLEY is the salvation found in Acts 2….repenting,,,(mourning for sins)…being cleansed from sin by Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the REMISSION of sins….then being filled with the Holy Ghost….now you are come to Mountain Zion instead of OT law.
This shows the turning from OT law mountain, going through valley of shadow of death,..not death to body, but to sin, old man....then rising up on Mt Zion, or Grace mountain. glorious revelation.
Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.>>>this is the OT folks fleeing from Law to Grace...to the VALLEY caused when the two mountains split...wow. what a revelation.....Thank you Lord Jesus.
Luke 3:5 Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth;>>>> see, this is speaking of everyone who enters this VALLEY of repentance...baptism....shall be FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST....causing them to see STRAIGHT.....no longer the rough ways of the law.
Also, another witness… Colossians 2:
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
~~~~~
Now those verses show us that this BURYING is SPIRITUAL and not NATURAL. It is not a bunch of folks picking up and burying a bunch of dead, rotting corpses.
It is those same people, who were once lost, but now found, lost but now brought to Christ, Gog, going into that water, obeying Acts 2:38, as the one and only way of remitting sins, or CLEANSING THE LAND.
They are baptized into DEATH, buried with Jesus, through Baptism; in the likeness of his death and burial, to be raised in the likeness of his resurrection…. living a holy life, free of sin. For seven church times, these people of Gog or first-man Adam, sinful humans, go into that watery GRAVE TO BE CLEANSED or have their sins remitted.
The WEAPONS of our warfare are not natural, but spiritual. So we must burn all those carnal weapons, and pick up the shields of faith, the sword of the word of God, and go out to battle all these LIES OF MAN or Gog.
That is what I am attempting to do today, writing this God-given revelation.
Notice that verse 14 in Col 2, shows that in this forgiveness of our sins, God blots out the HANDWRITING OF ORDINANCES, that was against us. This proves it is speaking of delivering us from that old LAW SYSTEM, written by God’s hand, on stone.
Verse 11, proves that this is spiritual CIRCUMCISION AND NOT THE NATURAL CIRCUMCISION OF THAT OLD LAW SYSTEM, IN the human flesh. THIS IS SPIRITUAL. It is cutting away our sins from us. Yet most everyone today says that baptism has nothing to do with our salvation and that we can never be free from our sins. See that both of these false teachings denies the people THIS CLEANSING THAT BEING BURIED WITH CHRIST IN BAPTISM GIVES TO US.
See that we crucified our old man, (Gog), and were thus delivered from our sin. This translated us from the kingdom of Satan, (Gog), into the kingdom of Christ, (Israel)
Here is another great ‘valley’ one must pass through to find true salvation: Psalm 84:6
Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools.
This VALLEY of Baca, means extreme weeping, which shows the true Godly sorrow that leads to repentance.
See how the real beauty of necessity of the steps to salvation have been completely missed due to false teachings.
Isaiah 40:4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
We see here that all who go into this VALLEY of being cleansed shall be exalted and all the crooked ideas straightened out or made clear.
This one is great: Isaiah 63:14
As a beast goeth down into the valley, the Spirit of the Lord caused him to rest: so didst thou lead thy people, to make thyself a glorious name.
Before salvation, we are considered to be beast….but when we go down into that valley, or watery grave, Jesus gives us Rest, thus making a glorious name for himself. Such glory!
Here is another ‘valley’, but means the same thing: Isaiah 65:10
And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me.
The herds is God’s sheep finding the shepherd.
There is much more could be said on this subject, but I think this is sufficient. May it be a blessing.
Amen.