Post by Jo Smith on Jan 3, 2019 22:39:29 GMT -5
THUNDER FIVE
Revelation 14 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 and they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
This is the people who received the seal of God in their foreheads. It is the same people in chapter seven. They came in all down through the grace age, as they received the Holy Ghost. It is not a certain number or amount of people. Again, these words are spiritual. It is that teaching family, beginning with the Apostles. They were the first fruits unto God and the Lamb. In their mouth is no guile, for Jesus cleansed them and put the words of God into their mouths. They speak no lies. They were redeemed from among MEN. They are now standing on the mount Sion with Jesus. They have now been resurrected. They are all the true Christians, in their glorified bodies. This is the mount Sion. So under this fifth thunder, they are seen with Jesus. They are speaking the words of heaven. It is the voice of MANY WATERS OR PEOPLE. THEY SPEAK this THUNDER.
It is also the sounding of those trumpets. It is the message which we speak, as God gives it to us. Our voices are those voices, sounding the thunders. How could we sound the thunders, if we never know what they are? It is given to us to know.
False teachers say this is natural Jewish Men, who never married. That is carnal junk. It means everyone who follows Jesus in truth and righteousness. It is the Church or Bride of Christ. We are the true ministers, who sound these thunders. We did not worship idols, so we are virgins to Christ Jesus. We gave virgin birth to our manchild. And if anyone else ever gives ‘birth’ to a manchild, or Christ in you it will have to be Virgin Birth, for that is the only way Christ is born. It has to be the Holy Ghost, overshadowing you, giving you the conception of Christ and you denying your old self, to bring forth the birth of this Christ in you. Are you a virgin to Christ, or do you worship the idols of this world? If you do Xmess, you are not a virgin to Christ, for you have worshipped another ‘god’ and are unclean to HIM.
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people
Now people suppose that this is something which will happen after ‘the church is gone’. Such foolishness. They seem to think some angel will come to earth, after that, (their false rapture idea) and preach to them that dwell on the earth. Why? I ask you, why would that happen if the Saints have gone to heaven, and nothing is left here but those who are DOOMED TO HELL?
No. It is no such thing. That is just foolish ideas of carnal minded men. This goes Back to the beginning of this age. It goes back to the sealing of that one hundred forty and four thousand. It goes back to the ministry of Peter/Paul, and that early witness Church. It is they who are going to preach the everlasting gospel to them that dwell on the earth, to every nation, kindred, and tongue and people. How else did that great crowd in chapter seven get into Christ? They came from the ministry of the Saints of God all down through the ages. That angel gave that message to Paul, to Peter, to John, to Jo Smith. Preach it, Jo. Bring in some more of that great group of people! He gave it to Larry Bray. Preach it, Larry. We are the witnesses for this age. (Not two people, but an entire group of people, as ONE. We just do not know where the others are. But they are there and will rise from the dead, with us, and preach this message to this world, and possess the Kingdom.)
Then another minister begins to announce that old Babylon has fallen. It will go forth after God destroys that evil church in chapter 18. Then we will preach to the world, that the hour of his judgment has come and she is fallen. It all happens under this fifth thunder! Next, in verse nine, ministers are warning people against the worship of that old beast. It did not just happen down here, in some silly little seven years! It started back in the days of Eve. It started in the days of Jesus, Peter, Paul.
Then look at this:
Rev 14: 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
Now you tell me if the saints have been taken off this earth before this time, how or who are these saints that it tells to be patient? Who is it saying is blessed to die in the Lord from Henceforth? How are they still here? Do not follow the foolish teaching of men, who have absolutely no scripture proof of anything they say. Their teachings do not match scripture at all. The rest of this chapter is telling the one on the cloud to reap this earth. Both peoples are reaped, God’s people and Satan’s people. So how did any ‘rapture’ take place long before this? See how foolish their doctrines are and how easy it is to prove them wrong! Chapter fifteen is simply an overview of all the saints of God, from the days of Moses until the end.
Chapter sixteen is the pouring out of the Vials or the finishing of the wrath of God. All of this is still under that fifth Thunder. Take special note of this verse:
Rev 16: 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
This is after the seals, the trumpets, the thunders, and the vials. Yet Jesus is saying here, Behold I come as a thief. Still warning people to watch and not be found naked. why? If they were raptured long before this, who is it speaking about? Who is this coming as a thief? Thought that is what they call the rapture of their church? Why is it still not happened down here after all of this wrath has been poured out? Thought it was for the purpose of ‘saving’ them from wrath? Who are you going to believe, those false teachers, or this Word of God?
If you will study Joel two, carefully, you will see two of the trumpets sounding in this chapter. You will see both witnesses clearly revealed here. You will see them, ‘coming as a thief’ for the Day of the Lord has come upon them. Then you will see both baptisms, the baptism of the Holy Ghost, to all flesh, and the baptism of fire, to his servants and handmaids. You will also see the great army of God, those horsemen, which is those locusts or Rev. nine, as they pour out the wrath of the Lamb, according to Psalm 149, as they burn up the STUBBLE, which is Satan’s kingdom.
Revelation 14 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 and they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
This is the people who received the seal of God in their foreheads. It is the same people in chapter seven. They came in all down through the grace age, as they received the Holy Ghost. It is not a certain number or amount of people. Again, these words are spiritual. It is that teaching family, beginning with the Apostles. They were the first fruits unto God and the Lamb. In their mouth is no guile, for Jesus cleansed them and put the words of God into their mouths. They speak no lies. They were redeemed from among MEN. They are now standing on the mount Sion with Jesus. They have now been resurrected. They are all the true Christians, in their glorified bodies. This is the mount Sion. So under this fifth thunder, they are seen with Jesus. They are speaking the words of heaven. It is the voice of MANY WATERS OR PEOPLE. THEY SPEAK this THUNDER.
It is also the sounding of those trumpets. It is the message which we speak, as God gives it to us. Our voices are those voices, sounding the thunders. How could we sound the thunders, if we never know what they are? It is given to us to know.
False teachers say this is natural Jewish Men, who never married. That is carnal junk. It means everyone who follows Jesus in truth and righteousness. It is the Church or Bride of Christ. We are the true ministers, who sound these thunders. We did not worship idols, so we are virgins to Christ Jesus. We gave virgin birth to our manchild. And if anyone else ever gives ‘birth’ to a manchild, or Christ in you it will have to be Virgin Birth, for that is the only way Christ is born. It has to be the Holy Ghost, overshadowing you, giving you the conception of Christ and you denying your old self, to bring forth the birth of this Christ in you. Are you a virgin to Christ, or do you worship the idols of this world? If you do Xmess, you are not a virgin to Christ, for you have worshipped another ‘god’ and are unclean to HIM.
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people
Now people suppose that this is something which will happen after ‘the church is gone’. Such foolishness. They seem to think some angel will come to earth, after that, (their false rapture idea) and preach to them that dwell on the earth. Why? I ask you, why would that happen if the Saints have gone to heaven, and nothing is left here but those who are DOOMED TO HELL?
No. It is no such thing. That is just foolish ideas of carnal minded men. This goes Back to the beginning of this age. It goes back to the sealing of that one hundred forty and four thousand. It goes back to the ministry of Peter/Paul, and that early witness Church. It is they who are going to preach the everlasting gospel to them that dwell on the earth, to every nation, kindred, and tongue and people. How else did that great crowd in chapter seven get into Christ? They came from the ministry of the Saints of God all down through the ages. That angel gave that message to Paul, to Peter, to John, to Jo Smith. Preach it, Jo. Bring in some more of that great group of people! He gave it to Larry Bray. Preach it, Larry. We are the witnesses for this age. (Not two people, but an entire group of people, as ONE. We just do not know where the others are. But they are there and will rise from the dead, with us, and preach this message to this world, and possess the Kingdom.)
Then another minister begins to announce that old Babylon has fallen. It will go forth after God destroys that evil church in chapter 18. Then we will preach to the world, that the hour of his judgment has come and she is fallen. It all happens under this fifth thunder! Next, in verse nine, ministers are warning people against the worship of that old beast. It did not just happen down here, in some silly little seven years! It started back in the days of Eve. It started in the days of Jesus, Peter, Paul.
Then look at this:
Rev 14: 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
Now you tell me if the saints have been taken off this earth before this time, how or who are these saints that it tells to be patient? Who is it saying is blessed to die in the Lord from Henceforth? How are they still here? Do not follow the foolish teaching of men, who have absolutely no scripture proof of anything they say. Their teachings do not match scripture at all. The rest of this chapter is telling the one on the cloud to reap this earth. Both peoples are reaped, God’s people and Satan’s people. So how did any ‘rapture’ take place long before this? See how foolish their doctrines are and how easy it is to prove them wrong! Chapter fifteen is simply an overview of all the saints of God, from the days of Moses until the end.
Chapter sixteen is the pouring out of the Vials or the finishing of the wrath of God. All of this is still under that fifth Thunder. Take special note of this verse:
Rev 16: 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
This is after the seals, the trumpets, the thunders, and the vials. Yet Jesus is saying here, Behold I come as a thief. Still warning people to watch and not be found naked. why? If they were raptured long before this, who is it speaking about? Who is this coming as a thief? Thought that is what they call the rapture of their church? Why is it still not happened down here after all of this wrath has been poured out? Thought it was for the purpose of ‘saving’ them from wrath? Who are you going to believe, those false teachers, or this Word of God?
If you will study Joel two, carefully, you will see two of the trumpets sounding in this chapter. You will see both witnesses clearly revealed here. You will see them, ‘coming as a thief’ for the Day of the Lord has come upon them. Then you will see both baptisms, the baptism of the Holy Ghost, to all flesh, and the baptism of fire, to his servants and handmaids. You will also see the great army of God, those horsemen, which is those locusts or Rev. nine, as they pour out the wrath of the Lamb, according to Psalm 149, as they burn up the STUBBLE, which is Satan’s kingdom.