Post by Jo Smith on Jan 8, 2023 21:19:19 GMT -5
~ Two Nations in One ~
In order to understand this message it is necessary to know that Moses, the lawgiver, was never in law, he was in grace. Proof?
Ex. 33:12. And Moses said unto the Lord, See, thou sayest unto me, Bring up this people: and thou hast not let me know whom thou wilt send with me. Yet thou hast said, I know thee by name, and thou hast also found grace in my sight.
13. Now therefore, I pray thee, if I have found grace in thy sight, shew me now thy way that I may know thee, that I may find grace in thy sight: and consider that this nation is thy people.
14. And he said my presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.
There is prophecy here that Moses was given the true rest of God, the Holy Ghost. Jesus.
15. And he said unto him, If thy presence go not with me carry us not up hence.
16. For wherein shall it be known here that I and thy people have found grace in thy sight? Is it not in that thou goest with us? So shall we be separated I and thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth.
17. And the Lord said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name.
Thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name. And I say unto to thee that thou art Peter and upon this ROCK I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
If one finds grace in His sight, then he knows that one by name. If he never calls you by name, you are not built upon the true foundation. It is a two-way thing, you must know the Lord, but He must also know you by name. We must be baptized in water in the Name of Jesus Christ in order for His name to be written onto us.
Verse 16 shows that the way it is known that one is God’s people is that we be separated from all the other people on the earth. These are the ones in grace. It is the Christians. God shows Moses that he is the one who found grace in his sight; not that old nation of Israel.
Just before the happenings in the above Scripture took place, God had told Moses in Chapter 24:1 to come up unto the LORD. He told Aaron and 73 others to worship afar off. They represent that nation of rebellious law people. They could only worship afar off. They could never draw near to God. They could not come boldly unto God. But look at the difference God makes with Moses.
2. And Moses alone shall come near the Lord: but they shall not come nigh; neither shall the people go up with him.
See Moses was the only one of that group allowed to come near to God. The others had to stay afar off. Why? We shall find out in this study.
12. And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
13. And Moses rose up and his minister Joshua: and Moses went up into the mount of God.
14. And he said unto the elders, Tarry ye here for us, until we come again unto you: and, behold, Aaron and Hur are with you: if any man have any matters to do, let him come unto them.
15. And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount.
16. And the glory of the Lord abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud.
17. And the sight of the glory of the Lord was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.
God told Moses, come up to me into the mount and I will give thee tables of stone and a law. Moses and Joshua went up into the mount of God.
He said to the elders, Tarry ye here for us, until we come again unto you. Then Moses went up into the mount and a cloud covered the mount.
This is a type of Jesus’ ascension to heaven. As he left he told his disciples to tarry for him then the cloud received him out of their sight.
God made a blood covenant with these Israelites and these tables of stone. The blood was the blood of animals. This could never take away their sins. They were a stiff-necked and rebellious people with whom God was never pleased. This was that law nation.
Verse 17-- the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on in the eyes of the children of Israel. Why? For to them it would only be judgment. They could never come into His glory because of their rebellion.
The same fire, which was glory to Moses, was destruction to them. Thus it will be in the end. The true people of God will see it as glory; but to the rebellious, those who go back to law and it will be destruction.
There is so much revelation in these chapters in Exodus I could make endless messages. It is hard to decide what to bring in and what to let go for now.
I will bring this in, even though it is a little off this lesson. In 31 it shows that anything God wishes for one to do, God himself will equip you for that job. He will give you the knowledge and wisdom to do it. If God does not give you the knowledge and wisdom to do a thing, He has not ordained for you to do it. That is for sure. So only try to do what God has given you the ability to do, for that is his will for your life.
In chapter 32 as Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people told Aaron to make them gods to go before them. They said they did not what had become of Moses. Now just see how quickly this people turned their backs against the true God and went into worship of idols. Look how quickly they disowned that God had delivered them from Egypt and this idol god had brought them out.
Ex. 32: 7. And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
8. They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
9. And the Lord said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff-necked people:
10. Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.
A marvelous revelation lies in these verses. 7--God said to Moses, thy people [here God denies them as they have already denied him; If you deny me, I also will deny you]. So this is fulfilled right here. Those people had declared to that golden calf that it was their god who brought them out of Egypt. So now God denies them to Moses and calls them Moses’ people. Why is this? Here the man Moses is not meant. Here Moses means law. So God is saying these people are under law, and therefore I cannot claim them or give them life of mercy. Under law forgiveness [mercy] is not possible. Now since they have worshipped this idol, God has denied them as His people and called them the people of law. Under law they are doomed to destruction, for God cannot forgive them their sins.
In verse 8 & 9 God declares his case against this people. They had made themselves an idol and worshipped it and called it their god.
Now verse 10. God told Moses to get out of his way and let his anger wax hot against them so that He might consume them. Since Moses was in Grace, and he was standing between God and the Israelites, God could not destroy them. As God looked only at Moses, He saw only grace. Under grace, there is forgiveness and mercy. By this then, God could do nothing against them. That is the glory of being under the grace of Jesus. As Jesus is between God and us He only sees mercy and therefore we are not destroyed.
But see that God desired to destroy this rebellious nation. He said to Moses “I will make of THEE a great nation.”
Now this is great. And this promise was not forsaken just because those Israelites were allowed to live a bit longer. God did actually make of Moses [the one in grace] another great nation. This was the nation under grace = the Christians.
Under this agreement between God and Moses right here, that law nation was allowed to continue a while longer so the full plan of God could be manifest. God had to show the whole world once and for all that if you partake of or eat of that tree of the knowledge of good and evil [the law] it brings only death. In order to have eternal life, you must partake of or eat of the tree of life [grace].
11. And Moses besought the Lord his God, and said, Lord, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?
12. Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people.
13. Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.
14. And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
What happened here? A marvelous thing. Moses tells God if you destroy them now, the whole world will say you did not keep your promise to Abraham, Isaac and Israel. They will say you brought them out only to slay them.
Moses actually reminded God here that there is a people inside this rebellious, idol worshipping, law nation which is your true seed. They are the ones who stayed true to God in their heart and did not follow these idols. They were inside this people. Most of them were yet in their genes, not even born yet. So if God destroyed the ‘carriers’ of that seed, then He would also destroy the true people yet to come. This was to be the true Zion of God, not this rebellious ‘stalk’ group of rebels.
The true ‘seed ‘of life in not actually that stalk of corn, but in the full, mature ear of corn. But that stalk is very necessary to get to that full corn of live seeds, which can reproduce a nation of God-like people. If God had destroyed that ‘stalk’ nation, then the true seed nation would have also been destroyed. Remember that Jesus came out of their seed. So Jesus would not have been able to be born had God destroyed this group of people. Their ‘children’ Peter, Paul, James, John, us, were at that time in the genes of this nation of rebels.
So see then that the entire plan of God and the whole creation of a people in the likeness and glory of God was at stake right here. See how the wisdom and revelation of God was inside this man Moses? He understood all of this and stood in that gap and did not let God set off his anger at this time against this nation. God had already set off his anger at that flood. But at that time he had saved a seed for the future generation through Noah.
Now God again saves that future seed of Jesus Christ and eternal life for a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Noah was also under Grace. So in him was saved the future seed of Jesus Christ. Now Moses in under Grace and inside him and Joshua was that seed of Jesus Christ. There was Judah among this group of rebels. If God had destroyed that nation, Jesus would never have been!
In verse 13 Moses reminds God about his promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Israel. This promise is that of bringing in the spiritual Israel, the Christians. This is that seed God was after all the time. That law nation was only a carrier of that seed. That law was only a schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ. But after that faith is come, we do not ever need that schoolmaster again. It is destroyed forever. The ‘land’ He promised them, which is spoken of here is not that natural land of Canaan. It is the Holy Ghost, the true rest of God which will be eternal life; land.
Because of this glorious future generation of faith, God repented of the evil He had thought to do this group of rebels and devil worshippers.
15. And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
16. And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.
Moses had the two tables in his hand. Moses had not hewed out these two stones. They were purely the Work of God. God had written the law on both sides of the stones. Now this represents that on the inside and on the outside, this people were rebels against the grace of God, eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the law. They were following in the footsteps of their father, the devil [Adam].
Written within and without -- their outer body and their soul.
Revelation 5:1. And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3. And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5. And one of the elders saith unto me, weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Here we see the Book of eternal redemption written on both sides also. But at this time it was sealed up with seven seals. Jesus came and opened them up and offered us all eternal redemption. This written within and without is showing immortality. It shows the glory of God on the inside, but now also on the outside = resurrection; immortality.
Now back to Ex. 32: 19. And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.
As soon as Moses saw their idol worship, their worldliness of dancing naked, he became angry with them and threw down those tables and brake them. This is showing that the law covenant, written on their stony heart could not stand. It was destruction. It brought them only destruction and death. In the day you eat thereof, Adam, that day you will die. That day you became mortal, walking around in a body of death; of clay; of the shadow of death.
Now all who follow this broken covenant of law will end up the same = dead.
By: Jo Smith
Oct. 22, 2003
In order to understand this message it is necessary to know that Moses, the lawgiver, was never in law, he was in grace. Proof?
Ex. 33:12. And Moses said unto the Lord, See, thou sayest unto me, Bring up this people: and thou hast not let me know whom thou wilt send with me. Yet thou hast said, I know thee by name, and thou hast also found grace in my sight.
13. Now therefore, I pray thee, if I have found grace in thy sight, shew me now thy way that I may know thee, that I may find grace in thy sight: and consider that this nation is thy people.
14. And he said my presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.
There is prophecy here that Moses was given the true rest of God, the Holy Ghost. Jesus.
15. And he said unto him, If thy presence go not with me carry us not up hence.
16. For wherein shall it be known here that I and thy people have found grace in thy sight? Is it not in that thou goest with us? So shall we be separated I and thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth.
17. And the Lord said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name.
Thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name. And I say unto to thee that thou art Peter and upon this ROCK I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
If one finds grace in His sight, then he knows that one by name. If he never calls you by name, you are not built upon the true foundation. It is a two-way thing, you must know the Lord, but He must also know you by name. We must be baptized in water in the Name of Jesus Christ in order for His name to be written onto us.
Verse 16 shows that the way it is known that one is God’s people is that we be separated from all the other people on the earth. These are the ones in grace. It is the Christians. God shows Moses that he is the one who found grace in his sight; not that old nation of Israel.
Just before the happenings in the above Scripture took place, God had told Moses in Chapter 24:1 to come up unto the LORD. He told Aaron and 73 others to worship afar off. They represent that nation of rebellious law people. They could only worship afar off. They could never draw near to God. They could not come boldly unto God. But look at the difference God makes with Moses.
2. And Moses alone shall come near the Lord: but they shall not come nigh; neither shall the people go up with him.
See Moses was the only one of that group allowed to come near to God. The others had to stay afar off. Why? We shall find out in this study.
12. And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
13. And Moses rose up and his minister Joshua: and Moses went up into the mount of God.
14. And he said unto the elders, Tarry ye here for us, until we come again unto you: and, behold, Aaron and Hur are with you: if any man have any matters to do, let him come unto them.
15. And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount.
16. And the glory of the Lord abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud.
17. And the sight of the glory of the Lord was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.
God told Moses, come up to me into the mount and I will give thee tables of stone and a law. Moses and Joshua went up into the mount of God.
He said to the elders, Tarry ye here for us, until we come again unto you. Then Moses went up into the mount and a cloud covered the mount.
This is a type of Jesus’ ascension to heaven. As he left he told his disciples to tarry for him then the cloud received him out of their sight.
God made a blood covenant with these Israelites and these tables of stone. The blood was the blood of animals. This could never take away their sins. They were a stiff-necked and rebellious people with whom God was never pleased. This was that law nation.
Verse 17-- the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on in the eyes of the children of Israel. Why? For to them it would only be judgment. They could never come into His glory because of their rebellion.
The same fire, which was glory to Moses, was destruction to them. Thus it will be in the end. The true people of God will see it as glory; but to the rebellious, those who go back to law and it will be destruction.
There is so much revelation in these chapters in Exodus I could make endless messages. It is hard to decide what to bring in and what to let go for now.
I will bring this in, even though it is a little off this lesson. In 31 it shows that anything God wishes for one to do, God himself will equip you for that job. He will give you the knowledge and wisdom to do it. If God does not give you the knowledge and wisdom to do a thing, He has not ordained for you to do it. That is for sure. So only try to do what God has given you the ability to do, for that is his will for your life.
In chapter 32 as Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people told Aaron to make them gods to go before them. They said they did not what had become of Moses. Now just see how quickly this people turned their backs against the true God and went into worship of idols. Look how quickly they disowned that God had delivered them from Egypt and this idol god had brought them out.
Ex. 32: 7. And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
8. They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
9. And the Lord said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff-necked people:
10. Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.
A marvelous revelation lies in these verses. 7--God said to Moses, thy people [here God denies them as they have already denied him; If you deny me, I also will deny you]. So this is fulfilled right here. Those people had declared to that golden calf that it was their god who brought them out of Egypt. So now God denies them to Moses and calls them Moses’ people. Why is this? Here the man Moses is not meant. Here Moses means law. So God is saying these people are under law, and therefore I cannot claim them or give them life of mercy. Under law forgiveness [mercy] is not possible. Now since they have worshipped this idol, God has denied them as His people and called them the people of law. Under law they are doomed to destruction, for God cannot forgive them their sins.
In verse 8 & 9 God declares his case against this people. They had made themselves an idol and worshipped it and called it their god.
Now verse 10. God told Moses to get out of his way and let his anger wax hot against them so that He might consume them. Since Moses was in Grace, and he was standing between God and the Israelites, God could not destroy them. As God looked only at Moses, He saw only grace. Under grace, there is forgiveness and mercy. By this then, God could do nothing against them. That is the glory of being under the grace of Jesus. As Jesus is between God and us He only sees mercy and therefore we are not destroyed.
But see that God desired to destroy this rebellious nation. He said to Moses “I will make of THEE a great nation.”
Now this is great. And this promise was not forsaken just because those Israelites were allowed to live a bit longer. God did actually make of Moses [the one in grace] another great nation. This was the nation under grace = the Christians.
Under this agreement between God and Moses right here, that law nation was allowed to continue a while longer so the full plan of God could be manifest. God had to show the whole world once and for all that if you partake of or eat of that tree of the knowledge of good and evil [the law] it brings only death. In order to have eternal life, you must partake of or eat of the tree of life [grace].
11. And Moses besought the Lord his God, and said, Lord, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?
12. Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people.
13. Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.
14. And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
What happened here? A marvelous thing. Moses tells God if you destroy them now, the whole world will say you did not keep your promise to Abraham, Isaac and Israel. They will say you brought them out only to slay them.
Moses actually reminded God here that there is a people inside this rebellious, idol worshipping, law nation which is your true seed. They are the ones who stayed true to God in their heart and did not follow these idols. They were inside this people. Most of them were yet in their genes, not even born yet. So if God destroyed the ‘carriers’ of that seed, then He would also destroy the true people yet to come. This was to be the true Zion of God, not this rebellious ‘stalk’ group of rebels.
The true ‘seed ‘of life in not actually that stalk of corn, but in the full, mature ear of corn. But that stalk is very necessary to get to that full corn of live seeds, which can reproduce a nation of God-like people. If God had destroyed that ‘stalk’ nation, then the true seed nation would have also been destroyed. Remember that Jesus came out of their seed. So Jesus would not have been able to be born had God destroyed this group of people. Their ‘children’ Peter, Paul, James, John, us, were at that time in the genes of this nation of rebels.
So see then that the entire plan of God and the whole creation of a people in the likeness and glory of God was at stake right here. See how the wisdom and revelation of God was inside this man Moses? He understood all of this and stood in that gap and did not let God set off his anger at this time against this nation. God had already set off his anger at that flood. But at that time he had saved a seed for the future generation through Noah.
Now God again saves that future seed of Jesus Christ and eternal life for a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Noah was also under Grace. So in him was saved the future seed of Jesus Christ. Now Moses in under Grace and inside him and Joshua was that seed of Jesus Christ. There was Judah among this group of rebels. If God had destroyed that nation, Jesus would never have been!
In verse 13 Moses reminds God about his promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Israel. This promise is that of bringing in the spiritual Israel, the Christians. This is that seed God was after all the time. That law nation was only a carrier of that seed. That law was only a schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ. But after that faith is come, we do not ever need that schoolmaster again. It is destroyed forever. The ‘land’ He promised them, which is spoken of here is not that natural land of Canaan. It is the Holy Ghost, the true rest of God which will be eternal life; land.
Because of this glorious future generation of faith, God repented of the evil He had thought to do this group of rebels and devil worshippers.
15. And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
16. And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.
Moses had the two tables in his hand. Moses had not hewed out these two stones. They were purely the Work of God. God had written the law on both sides of the stones. Now this represents that on the inside and on the outside, this people were rebels against the grace of God, eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the law. They were following in the footsteps of their father, the devil [Adam].
Written within and without -- their outer body and their soul.
Revelation 5:1. And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3. And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5. And one of the elders saith unto me, weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Here we see the Book of eternal redemption written on both sides also. But at this time it was sealed up with seven seals. Jesus came and opened them up and offered us all eternal redemption. This written within and without is showing immortality. It shows the glory of God on the inside, but now also on the outside = resurrection; immortality.
Now back to Ex. 32: 19. And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.
As soon as Moses saw their idol worship, their worldliness of dancing naked, he became angry with them and threw down those tables and brake them. This is showing that the law covenant, written on their stony heart could not stand. It was destruction. It brought them only destruction and death. In the day you eat thereof, Adam, that day you will die. That day you became mortal, walking around in a body of death; of clay; of the shadow of death.
Now all who follow this broken covenant of law will end up the same = dead.
By: Jo Smith
Oct. 22, 2003